Tactics T34/76 vs SU-76
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On the new tank map with all the mountain passes that just came out - it seems MOST people are running for the SU's and they are in short supply. Their rate of fire combined with the new crosshair makes them an extremely effective commodity on that map. In the tank-killing role no less.
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Heh, I'm gaining a new respect for the Su-76. I managed to kill a Tiger with a few HE rounds (it was already yellow at least).
That whole no armor on top thing is an issue. Saw the gunner get vaporised by an incoming round. Vehicle was OK, just no more tanker.
It would be great to see this in a combined arms map with NO other tanks. So the Su-76 can do what it does best - infantry support.
Germans should still have fausters though.
That whole no armor on top thing is an issue. Saw the gunner get vaporised by an incoming round. Vehicle was OK, just no more tanker.
It would be great to see this in a combined arms map with NO other tanks. So the Su-76 can do what it does best - infantry support.
Germans should still have fausters though.
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The SU 76 is advantageous for its fast reload, true, but it is also hardier than the T34.
How many times have you lobbed shell after shell into the SU76 (all penetrating) and it survived? I'm sure it's just a bug, but the fact remains that those things can survive hit after hit after hit. The T34 can't do that. That's why I just ignore those tanks if I'm in a Tiger or something, because I know it'll take more than a couple rounds (sometimes five or six or more!) to kill it.
How many times have you lobbed shell after shell into the SU76 (all penetrating) and it survived? I'm sure it's just a bug, but the fact remains that those things can survive hit after hit after hit. The T34 can't do that. That's why I just ignore those tanks if I'm in a Tiger or something, because I know it'll take more than a couple rounds (sometimes five or six or more!) to kill it.
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Well, I did sustain like 40 non penetrating shots in a T34/76 (mostly AP, with quite a few HE thrown in) in Krivoi Roig today. On the other hand, I like only killed 2 during that time. On the other hand, I must admit I rake more kills with the SU, with the good reload speed and the fact I can switch to binocs faster after firing to see where my shell exactly land and make range adjustments. Problem is that there aren't trees to hide back into like in BDJ like Reddog said. Plus like http://www.redorchestragame.com/forum/member.php?u=4694 said, SU can be great fun on Rackowice. Red geysers are beautifull... Also, it's fun when it's burning, but you're still inside in the middle of the flames, firing at and destroying axis tanks.
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T34 is, overall, much better in my opinion. The one large advantage the SU76 has is rate of fire. For long distances (over 1km) this RoF can be a huge help. Gives you a chance to get the enemy zeroed in far quicker.
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SU's are handy for a good and well hidden position when volume of shells counts. or just for spamming HE rounds at a tiger to kill it. they really arent assault tanks
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I love the StugIII but the SU-76 is not usefull in my opinion . The gun and the armor are to weak .
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Well, IMO that was pathetic. Only reason that player was able to do anything was that he was in KV, there were other friendly tankers around, and enemies were same kind of noobs as himself . He wasn't hitting much anything while he was taking numerous hits. Positioning of the tank was crap, out in the open just sitting and realoading.
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The main advantage of an SU use that it can pump out a lot of HE pain on enemy infantry. The t-34 has a much longer reload time. If you're good at hiding you can put 2 shots into someone's side and kill them before they notice where you are.
At extremely long range you can also adjust for range mis-calculations faster and hit the enemy before he even has his gun aimed properly.
At extremely long range you can also adjust for range mis-calculations faster and hit the enemy before he even has his gun aimed properly.
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Yep. In reality a 76mm shell would go right through the MG bulb so having a 85mm blast it in game seems reasonable.
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I've seem the SU-76 do unbelievable damage in Black July, sitting up high on the road out of the German spawn area. I think a lot of the supposed hit survival of the SU-76 is due to some logic that lets shells through the hit box without exploding, so if the SU is up high and its targets are below at the right angle it will get the weaker top armor and the return shells will slip through the hit box on the SU.
Just a guess of course.
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