Insurgency Mod ... EPIC THREAD OF DOOM

[Thorpy]

To be honest your fanboyism in this thread is starting to do my tits in, i dont mind you talking about the game and contradicting others post but when you constantly post things like: 'Its a beta' 'RO was crap when it was first released' it grows tiresome. I don't mind you posting your opinions and its nothing personal just your making your self look like a tit throughout this thread.

Dude

Ive never said RO was crap

Its a brilliant game

But to be honest with ya m8, it IS in beta and when RO was in its first stages IT needed work

I seem to have offended you by saying the words, 'remember when RO was first released'

Maybe its YOU who is the fanboy

 

[SunKing]

Played it enough to have an opinion. THe maps need to be optimized. People already have the street map down and Iraqis can pin USA in spawn within seconds. Game feels like a combination of AA and RO on source. I'll check it out when it's out of beta. Game has alot of potential. Till then its back to defending Tractor Works.

 

[King Ragnar]

Dude

Ive never said RO was crap

Its a brilliant game

But to be honest with ya m8, it IS in beta and when RO was in its first stages IT needed work

I seem to have offended you by saying the words, 'remember when RO was first released'

Maybe its YOU who is the fanboy

you clearly haven't read my post or i haven't explained it properly, so ill just leave it.

 

[Tsoman]

It seems so easy to shoot people in this game. Are there realistic ballistics like in RO? Are the hitboxes just really big?

I've always thought something was fishy with source hit detection.

 

[ProfessorKayos]

The ranges are very close for the most part, and yes the hit boxes are a bit rough on the edges. They need refined and such and I believe the devs have said before that they are aware they need some work. But watching the death animations just makes me forget all about that

With the first patch coming out, just fixing or addressing the TK issues and stability problems for servers, the game will be that much better. IMO, there aren't really any huge, glaring gameplay bugs besides maybe the scoring system being borked. Most things are of such a nature that I look at them as a WIP since this is only a first beta (animations, etc.).

I suspect a lot of complaints come from people who may not have played many mods before, at least not in their early stages. Not necessarily talking about from these forums, but the INS community in general.

[edit] Let me add that it is still no replacement for RO. If thats what you're after, you don't have it with INS.

 

[Greasemonkey]

This mod is spot on for a Beta 1.0 release. So far I'm loving the gameplay and I can really see that this mod and team have a future. The sounds in the game are fantastic(I'm very impressed with the weapon firing sounds- very authentic).

Can't wait to see them start fixing bugs but so far the core gameplay is pretty damn good.

 

[fiftyone]

I'm having a great time with the shotgun, boom = splat job !

 

[PsYcH0_Ch!cKeN]

But watching the death animations just makes me forget all about that

Some of my clanmates also said the same, but what I'm seeing, along with the majority of my squad, is woeful ragdolls that appear very similar to those in DoD: Source. The model weighting is too high and characters get instant rigor mortis before they begin to fall. It also means they fall faster than is realistic or sensible. One of the deaths looks cool (almost seems like a canned animation, maybe it is) but the rest are... lacking. Certainly you can tell it's the havoc physics engine - I've blasted players through the air with a single rifle shot like in Max Payne 2.

It's been suggested that I have worse ragdoll effects appearing than others due to a game setting, however the Source engine doesn't have scalable physics like the Unreal engine, so whilst ragdolls are client side and therefore may differ slightly, on the whole what I see is the same as anyone else. I have to assume in that case that it's simply my opinion that's differing. So to my mind, these ragdolls are terrible and rarely look realistic. RO's ragdolls are still the most lifelike (or deathlike) implemented into any game to date, followed by AA's (and I'm well aware of who coded the AA ones). Everyone else is fully entitled to their opinion, I'll just give you a funny look.

 

[Fu. Svedberg]

*snip*...Are there realistic ballistics like in RO?...*snip*

No there is no ballistics in INS (for hand guns/rifles), currently they use hit scan (might change in the future but who knows)

 

[D3terioNation]

Anyone else getting issues where you're suddenly one on one with someone but he appears to be looking elsewhere (so you take your time) and *bang* *thud* you're dead?!!

 

[Quietus]

It seems so easy to shoot people in this game. Are there realistic ballistics like in RO? Are the hitboxes just really big?

I've always thought something was fishy with source hit detection.

I don't know if this is true for INS (since I don't have a source game to run it) but when I tried DODS on the free weekend all guns felt like they were firing watermelon sized projectiles and player hitboxes seemed like they were the size of a car (huge). So yeah from my DODS experience it was insanely easy (you could say effortless actually) to get kills. Not challenging or fun to me at all. RO is without a doubt the absolute best in terms of very accurate hitboxes (hitcylinders technically accord to Yoshiro). And of course RO has physical bullet modeling rather than hitscan. If INS can tweak the hitscan & hitboxes and make them more realistic then that should be one of their top priorities IMO.

 

[CCCP Kirby]

What do I need for this mod? Can I buy CS and play the mod or do I need HL2?

 

[D3terioNation]

I think INS is now officially my second game after RO!

It just needs some patching up here & there (and my map knowledge needs to improve here & there ) and this game should be the perfect modern shooter that Ive been looking for!!

 

[Lt_Kettch]

It plays too CSish at the moment for me. And the maps are a complete mess.


RO is far superior at the moment.

But I admit that to transform a Marine in a red cold with a shot gun is kinda funny but it happens not so often.
And the shot gun has no recoil?

 

[D3terioNation]

Yeh there tonnes of issues that should get ironed out.

1. It needs fast-switch (BADLY!!!!)
2. The grenade accuracy/distance is all borked, plus no 3rd person anims...
3. Player speed tooooo slow (I mean come oon, these are lightly armed, indigenous fighters, they should move faster)
4. The foot step sounds are out of sync.
5. Sniping is just a waste. I prefer weapons with no scope as you really need maximum close/medium range vision!! Long distance kills hardly happen...

Anyways, once these are fixed or improved the game should be excellent to play. Its quite a pain at the moment but I'l stick with it & see how it pans out!

 

[Lt_Kettch]

Run with a bayo in your hands then you are faster like in real life.

A big problem is also you need a manual to understand all the stuff (the command system etc.) And also there is no info about the reinformencts left. Why? It's not very intuitive.

 

[zeep]

player speed too slow? its too fast.

 

[JoshuaC]

I know it's a Source engine thing but I ****ing hate how much fog is in some of the smaller maps. Makes sniping useless.

 

[Werner]

I know it's a Source engine thing but I ****ing hate how much fog is in some of the smaller maps. Makes sniping useless.

Yeah, it's really a bit exaggerated but on the other hand, the game really stutters whenever you get to see a bit further (like the long alley near the marine spawn in Almadan).

 

[Thorpy]

I think that fog only affects Nvidia users

Some FPS issues are gettin fixed in the next patch too

Not sure about that nvidia thing though Any ATI users got really bad fog?