Randomised Ammo Loadouts

[Jhaxavier]

I am not sure about how well-equipped soldiers on both sides were, but maybe on later war maps where the fighting went crazy, there should be randomized ammo loadouts...here's an example...

A guy with a Mosin-Nagant respawns, but his number of clips he carries in the start are randomised between 3 and 9 clips. Say he was poorly equipped by the guy in the truck (or his NCO was greedy). Grenades also may be randomised from 0 to 3 or so.

Another thing that randomised loadouts would do is mix up how you play your class. For example, an Avomatchik who respawns with a PPSh and with only 2 clips (one in his gun, other in pouch) would want to be more cautious than your vanilla run-and-gun type. This also may prevent snipers from hogging a spot forever if they run out of ammo quicker than normal. This may also make players in general more accurate and value their ammo.

If you start with less than your maximum, you can hop by an ammo pile and grab some spare clips and fill up your ammo slots all the way up.

Imagine the possibilities...in Pariser Platz, for instance, you could have the Volkstrum (sp?) with much less ammo than their soldier counterparts. Go running into the battle with only 2 stripper clips to go with your K98. If you can, grab that dead Russian's Mosin and take his maxed-out ammo.

Another thing that should be observed is that it should be a server side option, instead of a universal change. So if the server likes desperados who keep picking up guns, they can set their ammo loadouts low, or if they like it default, no problem either.

I will say again, I am not sure at all about the realism of this, but there you go. Constructive crits are welcome

 

[Dumba [cro]]

Doesn't sound bad at all... mayhaps could make running out of ammo a bit more common occurence. Melikes.

 

[_MB_]

Great idea.

 

[[=KAS=]doomed]

I don't want to be put at an immediate disadvantage by something I can't control, so I say no.

 

[Jhaxavier]

There is that problem...randomised loadouts that are directed towards lower ammunition can be a problem in maps where one side is likely to win (Odessa, Lyes Krovy, etc)

 

[Reise]

I like the idea, people might actually have a need for the ammo dumps scattered around the maps. And who seriously ever runs out of ammo, unless you're a trigger happy SMG spammer?

 

[Isaak Johnson]

I like this idea, and I would especially like it if it was a server side option instead of a total change.

Maybe there could also be a certain chance of getting a certain amount of ammo over a different ammount, so instead of each different ammo amount having the exact same chance of appearing, you might have a 1/10 chance of getting less than 4 clips but a 5/10 chance of getting 6 or more clips as an example, or somthing else along those lines.

And for tose maps where having randomized ammo amount could hurt the game, maybe each map could have a different randomization setup for when the server host has the option on.

 

[Trendkill]

This is a worthy idea as a server side option, it gives your gameplay a bit of variety and change in personal tactics. Might help reduce the kind of grenade spamming that many players loathe, too.

 

[[=KAS=]Dutch]

i have to say no to this, because u get a random disadvantage

if anything amount of cliips at the start should be lower then the max


and this is already true with the russian anti-tank rifle, of which i always start with 14 rounds, but after getting more ammo, goes up to 19 rounds

 

[Jhaxavier]

Wow, the =KAS= are real gamer bois, no? j/k, j/k

Someone oughtta make a mutator of this

 

[slyder73]

I am not sure about how well-equipped soldiers on both sides were, but maybe on later war maps where the fighting went crazy, there should be randomized ammo loadouts...here's an example...

A guy with a Mosin-Nagant respawns, but his number of clips he carries in the start are randomised between 3 and 9 clips. Say he was poorly equipped by the guy in the truck (or his NCO was greedy). Grenades also may be randomised from 0 to 3 or so.

Another thing that randomised loadouts would do is mix up how you play your class. For example, an Avomatchik who respawns with a PPSh and with only 2 clips (one in his gun, other in pouch) would want to be more cautious than your vanilla run-and-gun type. This also may prevent snipers from hogging a spot forever if they run out of ammo quicker than normal. This may also make players in general more accurate and value their ammo.

If you start with less than your maximum, you can hop by an ammo pile and grab some spare clips and fill up your ammo slots all the way up.

Imagine the possibilities...in Pariser Platz, for instance, you could have the Volkstrum (sp?) with much less ammo than their soldier counterparts. Go running into the battle with only 2 stripper clips to go with your K98. If you can, grab that dead Russian's Mosin and take his maxed-out ammo.

Another thing that should be observed is that it should be a server side option, instead of a universal change. So if the server likes desperados who keep picking up guns, they can set their ammo loadouts low, or if they like it default, no problem either.

I will say again, I am not sure at all about the realism of this, but there you go. Constructive crits are welcome

I think the ammo loadouts should say accurate to what the standard equipment loadout really was. Sure, early in the war the Germans had no ammunition shortage and the Russians were chronically short, and later in the war the Germans were running short and the Russians had an overwhelming surplus, but other than a few notably historic situations, most soldiers were able to fill their ammo pouches with what they would carry.

It would be an interesting idea for mappers to set up low ammo for maps that took place at certain times to reflect the supply situation of either army at the time, but as for random, that is just adding something non combat related and non skill related, out of the players control to the game and I personally don't like that.

 

[Diamond]

I don't think it should be randomised, ammo just needs to be more limited. Randomising gives unfair advantages to other players.

 

[U3BAPuHCKUU*_4yBAK]

I like idea only that mosin clips should be randomised from 1 to 8 (not 9)

becasue ammo pouch can contain 4 clips.

p.s. This feature should be made as mutator.

 

[BuddyLee]

I like the idea, people might actually have a need for the ammo dumps scattered around the maps. And who seriously ever runs out of ammo, unless you're a trigger happy SMG spammer?

I run out of shells in my IS2 from time to time. on Ogledow particularly. I can go an entire round defending the Hill with 1 life solo or TT.

I have wondered if the ammo dumps work in regards to reloading tanks?

This Idea ain't bad, but might be frustrating in-game=might kill the fun factor... idk.

 

[[=KAS=]doomed]

Wow, the =KAS= are real gamer bois, no? j/k, j/k

It's our job.

 

[slyder73]

I like idea only that mosin clips should be randomised from 1 to 8 (not 9)

becasue ammo pouch can contain 4 clips.

p.s. This feature should be made as mutator.

Ammo pouches equal 4 + 4, plus the one in the weapon, = 9

 

[_MB_]

i have to say no to this, because my CL told me to start an account and win the thread

fixed

 

[SiC-Disaster]

i like this idea.

 

[[=KAS=]doomed]

fixed

Pfft.... I'm no clan leader.

 

[merder]

Ammo pouches equal 4 + 4, plus the one in the weapon, = 9

Wrong. When the count in-game displays 0, it doesn't count the clip in your gun. Every rifleman actually carries 10 clips ingame. When the display shows you have 9 clips, it only counts the ones on your person and not in your rifle.