New Weapons Discussion (Merged)

[Mike_Nomad]

How, if there were only so few produced?

Let's say 9 million soldiers were serving at the same time.
4,400/9,000,000
Even with this overly optimistic calculation only 0.05% of the soldiers had one, if you consider that soldiers died while their weapons were reused the figure increases only slightly.
You could say that this weapon was close to non existant on the battleground - excluding operations of FJ like the freeing of Mussolini.

It would be even worse than saying that you should add the Stoner 63 to a Vietnam game where you play regular GIs, even though that this would be more likely than that case.

I'm not going to debate what I said.... I made a comment and you want to take it to the extreme?? Why?? Weapons of all sorts were picked up and used by troops from either side throughout the war. (Fact) No debate needed. Sheesh.

 

[mat69]

So are you for adding it or not?

What I'm saying is that a lot of weapons were used during the war, be it your fists, you knife or simply stick and stones.
So the developers have to make a decision what to add, based on their preferences.
If their preferences include weapons that only a few people saw, when it is that way.

But personally I do not see a reason to add the FG42.

 

[Heler]

How, if there were only so few produced?

Let's say 9 million soldiers were serving at the same time.
4,400/9,000,000
Even with this overly optimistic calculation only 0.05% of the soldiers had one, if you consider that soldiers died while their weapons were reused the figure increases only slightly.
You could say that this weapon was close to non existant on the battleground - excluding operations of FJ like the freeing of Mussolini.

It would be even worse than saying that you should add the Stoner 63 to a Vietnam game where you play regular GIs, even though that this would be more likely than that case.

IT WAS A PARATROOPER WEAPON.

LOOK AT THE FJ NUMBERS, NOT WERMACHT.

idiot.

 

[piller]

If the FJ was added so would german paratroopers. We dont need the gun, and a gun so rare would not complement the game very well I think.

So my vote is no on the FJ

 

[Mike_Nomad]

So are you for adding it or not?

I could care less one way or the other.........

 

[Marlon]

I don't think it should be included in the game. Too rare, and too much work would be required from the Devs (IE New maps, skins etc) Also, the FG42 isn't the brilliant firearm it's made out to be, it's excessively loud, with a terrible muzzle flash, had a shonky bipod arrangement and is nigh on impossible to control on fully automatic.

 

[Seth_Soldier]

i know it's off topic but i think it is correct to remind to people that :

wehrmacht = luftwaffe + kriegsmarine + heer

 

[mat69]

IT WAS A PARATROOPER WEAPON.

LOOK AT THE FJ NUMBERS, NOT WERMACHT.

idiot.

I can read. Writing in caps does not make your post more important and please keep insulting out of the discussion. If you have the feeling that you have to insult me, write me a PM. It is not so complicated.

At the moment we have no Luftwaffe in the game, we only have the Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS sometimes. That is why I used Wehrmacht figures, to show a comparison. The G41 is rare, but is nothing compared to the rareness of the FG42.

And btw. maybe you know that many Luftwaffe-Soldaten (including Fallschirmj

 

[TheClosedPistachio]

The FG-42 is so cool of a weapon, that time and space should be bent in order to accomadate it in RO.

Probably we may see it as a user made add-on or maybe (hopefully) in the Mare Nostrum mod, as they were mostly used in Italy and on the West Front.

There are several pictures of Fg-42s used in the defense of Casino and in famous rescue of Mussolini. And of course, in Normandy.

As I showed in the picture, there was at least one FG-42 in Berlin. And one is all we need. Probably there were a handful of them floating around in the last days.

Of course, first we need to add Fj's. I think they would be a very worthy addition to the Ost Front. There were several hundred thousand deployed there, I believe.

I could be mistaken, but I think I recall a company of Fallschirmjaegers taking part in the defense of the Seelow Heights.

There is, of course, tons more stuff that probably should be added first, but something for the future at least. We'll probably see it as part of a mod first before we see it in Ost Front proper, I think.

 

[Nugetti23]

Nagant revolver!

Nagant revolver!

Do you think it would be cool and realistic if german officers have nagant m1985 revolver.
They really use that revolver, and they have more nagants than TT33s.
TT33 was first only tankcrews gun.

 

[angelangel]

I think you mean Russian officers. Seriously, you don't want to spend 1 minute loading a pistol.

 

[Nugetti23]

I think you mean Russian officers. Seriously, you don't want to spend 1 minute loading a pistol.

What u mean? Revolvers are really quick reload.
I have real revolver (smith and wesson magnum 357) and i can reaload it an 20 seconds.

 

[angelangel]

What u mean? Revolvers are really quick reload.
I have real revolver (smith and wesson magnum 357) and i can reaload it an 20 seconds.

You had to reload the nagant one bullet at a time. So that would ****, I don't know if their going to think about adding this.

 

[Sgt._Geist]

This is true that Ruskies did have the Nagant revolver but.....

Can you use a speed loader on the nagant revolver or no???

I remember it being in the mod on Pavlov... it was pretty cool but the reloading animation ****ed and it wasnt even more powerfull than a regular pistol...

 

[SgtH3nry3]

This is true that Ruskies did have the Nagant revolver but.....

Can you use a speed loader on the nagant revolver or no???

I remember it being in the mod on Pavlov... it was pretty cool but the reloading animation ****ed and it wasnt even more powerfull than a regular pistol...

I thought the Nagant revolver used cartridges rather than speedloaders?

 

[1 3 3]

I think in the RO mod version the Russian machine gunner on Maikop1942 had the nagant revolver. It took literally 30 seconds or more to reload the gun.

 

[U3BAPuHCKUU*_4yBAK]

Why not, id like to see it on 41-42 year maps (and especially on Red October
, dont know why )

Also Mauser (not sure it was C96 or not) pistol used by Soviet officers

 

[Goetz]

I would love to see the Nagant revolver as a choice.
Yes it would probably be worse than the TT33 but I would use it just for novelty and historical accuracy

 

[NuCleaR]

There are already 1 tread about this but i would really like to see Nagant revolver and new guns!

 

[Wolfstuka]

Ya you really should have searched first.