I have to ask....

[Conscript]

....was anything done to SMGs in the patch? Because one thing I have noticed is that the SMGs feel much better now...the wierd massive recoil you get even when tapping the trigger has gone, and they seem to be more fluid to control, more predictable.....on the whole, a lot better. Even I, someone who is not really adept with SMGs, found myself taking out several enemies at once in close quarter maps using short bursts.

However, Im informed that no changes were made to SMG code. But they definately feel much better.

Also, well done with the patch. So far, it all feels a lot better. Im not too keen on the new jogging animations, but they are better than the straight backed ones we had before The new Russian voice sounds great and the G41, in the few times Ive been able to use it, has been most satisfying.

 

[Yoshiro]

Strangly, no we haven't touched it but you are not the first person to comment on it heh.

 

[Conscript]

Odd. I thought maybe the recoil code that was fixed and then removed a few months back due to FPS/no recoil issues had been fixed up and reimplemented. Anyway, it defiately feels a lot better now

 

[Yoshiro]

Well I will take full credit for this then!

 

[Tak]

LOL


I attribute it to people finally getting used to the buggers
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[Part_No.472G-9]

Maybe your FPS was low. When it drops to a certain point the smg recoil pretty much goes away and guns like the PPSH behave a bit more like they should.

edit: Wait, that's kinda what you said. I thought the code they removed was low FPS/MAJOR recoil, and they went back to the current no recoil version. Anyway, they seem the same to me.

 

[Avenger]

Nah, the PPSh still jumps up and down like a Jack Russell Terrier.

 

[Kurtz]

No difference for me. Seems like every update someone swears something was changed that was untouched.

 

[mbrooksay]

....was anything done to SMGs in the patch? Because one thing I have noticed is that the SMGs feel much better now...the wierd massive recoil you get even when tapping the trigger has gone....

There are posts exactly like this after every update on every game I've ever been apart of.

People get a little too psyched out about changes in games after updates.

 

[Conscript]

So I got psyched about changes that wern't advertised, for a weapon class I don't use much anyway?

And if anything, my FPS is higher. Maybe that is something to do with it.

 

[Solo4114]

No, more like with the addition of new things, you start reevaluating the rest of the game to see if it's different/same. When you're talking about things like the "feel" of the game (IE: "The G43 just doesn't feel right to me. I can't get the hang of it."), sometimes the psychological impact of changes elsewhere will lead you to reevaluate something in a fresh light.

So, people who say "The SMGs feel like they kick too much" may look at them after a content update and say "Huh...they feel better now..."

 

[melipone]

People have been saying they've gained like 10FPS because of the patch. Maybe you were getting some of the "added recoil for low fps" before the patch and its gone now because your FPS is higher.
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[Conscript]

People have been saying they've gained like 10FPS because of the patch. Maybe you were getting some of the "added recoil for low fps" before the patch and its gone now because your FPS is higher.
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This sounds most likely. Anyway, I wasn't angry, quite the opposite. The game feels much better now, I was just puzzled.

Thanks!

 

[DangDave]

Strangly, no we haven't touched it but you are not the first person to comment on it heh.

Nor should it ever be

The smg's are just fine, if ya make it noob friendly then everyone will be running and gunning, tking for weapon even more than they already do, ect.

lets keep it real plz

or at least balanced

 

[Yoshiro]

I do strongly recommend everybody use the built in defrag utility in steam on RO and all their steam games.

 

[Part_No.472G-9]

I do strongly recommend everybody use the built in defrag utility in steam on RO and all their steam games.

I have, and just did, and have never had it say anything other than 0% fragmentation.

Yoshiro, could you clarify the low fps bug, since there are differing opinions here. My understanding is that currently if your fps drops below a certain point the recoil goes away, and that the strong recoil that some people (including me) complain about is intentional. Correct?

 

[PsYcH0_Ch!cKeN]

Correct. The SMG's are meant to have quite high recoil (except that damned MP40!). If you ever get low recoil, that's bugged behaviour, not normal.