Harry S. Truman said:Without acutally firing one, how can you know???
Exactly. I think that is the way to change it. Dont mess with the accuracy, but make it so the first few shots are more manageable. That way, rambo-style is still discouraged, but everyone can still have the opportunity to place fairly accurate bursts if they take the time to aim.SilverSheep said:I think that there should be less recoil in the first one second of fire with the PPSH and increse over time. Now you can tap fire with insain recoil or just spay. Most cases you just hose the target and if you decrease recoil overall you will increse the range too much and people will not aim it at all.
There is NO conefire. The innaccuracy you feel using the SMG is due to the shake of the gun itself. Same for the MG's.Makimaki said:I say remove cone of fire for mp40/41/44 all ppsh:
-less spray and pray, more hope for people who can control recoil to be effective past 50 meters.
-If you make the smgs more accurate (taking away cone of fire, gun will fire realistically ie: where the gun points).
Reduce the amount of "up wards recoil" but more of side to side recoil, then it will be more realistic, more use for smgs, and take more skill than it does now.
(they will have to aim where they want to hit and fire in bursts to be effective, rather then praying and holding down the mouse button on iron sights)
[tR]Mad Mac said:The innaccuracy you feel using the SMG is due to the shake of the gun itself. Same for the MG's.
I just loaded up a practice round and single shotted the Mp40. The shots went where I pointed (disregarding drop).Makimaki said:In red orchestra try firing a mp40, just single shots. Notice bullets flying 5 meters off where you aimed? I do.
Recoil != accuracy...Rogers1337 said:they are too accurate on the fly if you ask me. Iam charging someone a mile away with a ppsh, they look at my standing or crouching and I die. Sorry thats too accurate. DO NOT CHANGE THE RECOIL, IF ANYTHING INCREASE IT.
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Avenger said:Yeah, and he's standing. In RO, don't expect to hit your target with any weapon while standing. I think the submachinegun recoil is way overkill to make up for the small size of the maps. If the maps were more spread out, they could bring it back down to reality.
Phoenix-D said:His barrel is also wandering quite a bit. I think the PPsH specifically has too much recoil- the rest of the SMGs are all right.
Dheepan said:There's been a lot of talk about changing the recoil to be more realistic. However it might be that there is a silent majority that thinks it's fine, so I think this poll should be a sort of end all conclusion.
Personally I think it's too much. The mp40 and stg44 have comparabley very little recoil. Reallife videos show that it was much more controllable than in game. Anyways this isn't an arguement just vote in the poll please
Hyperion2010 said:Sometimes I think that it has too much, but then I use it like it was used IRL (burst from a supported position) to give covering fire for an area and more often than not I get a kill.
Rak said:Seems fine to me too. Mod was suffering from PPSh rambos, and Ostfront completely eliminated them.
If there's a recoil issue that needs to be toned down to mod levels, those are the MG's.