Is - Svt-40

[Sight]

Dear Developers

The SVT-40 seems to be too small compared to the real IS of the gun.Of course the weapon is brilliant and very strong in the game,so many people will say: "Hey,i love the SVt-40,leave it as it is."

Here is a picture of the IS of the SVT-40 :
http://www.gunpics.net/ironsights/svt40.html

As you can see the IS is in fact smaller than the ones of other weapons,yet the front of the IS is cleary visible and way bigger than in RO.

It would be great if the IS could become bigger and more like the real gun,so the IS is more close to the screen.

Another thing i ve to add:

Many IS have a bad contrast compared to the surrounding environment,specially on urban maps.Often the front of the IS "disappears" in a wall as there is hardly any contrast.

I love RO,it s a fantastic game.

Thx for listening

 

[GonzoX]

I agree.

Recoil is also still way too high.

I own a refurbed SVT40 and it barely has any recoil at all. In-game the SVT has more recoil than a Mosin Nagant M44 and that is totally wrong IMHO.

 

[Sight]

I appreciate your post very much,it s always amazeing when somebody who actually owns and even shot theses weapons can make a statement.Thanks a lot for your answer!


The developers made a brilliant game,it seems like they only made the real big mistakes when it comes to the recoil.For example the recoil of the PPSH-41 is way too strong,especially while standing.Almost any SMG has too much recoil while standing.

As you are interested in weapons,check these videos of the PPSH-41 in action:
http://www.ppsh41.com/mpg.html

Again,thx a lot for your answer

All the best.

 

[GonzoX]

Also agree on that.

Part of the problem is that they may have implemented the absurd recoil on the SMGs for game ballancing. Otherwise SMGs would rule the online battlefield if implemented correctly. Same with the SVT40, in that they wanted to ballance it out with the bolt guns by adding absurd recoil too it as a form of trade-off for having a semi auto.

Either that or they saw some guy limp-wristing an SVT40 and used that as a model. I dunno.

IIRC the developers had examples of many guns before they made them and even fired some (I think). But I don't believe they had the pleasure of shooting any real Full Auto models. Maybe they will jump in here with some info.

Regardless though, your video pretty much sums up what it should be like. I would like to see initial first shot recoil and then see the weapon ballance itself out after initial recoil as in real life. After effect would be that everybody will want an SMG in short range maps. But wasn't that the case in WWII?

 

[D3terioNation]

SVT too much recoil.... right.

If you lowered the recoil, you would just turn it into a hipshooters rail-gun dream

As for the view, it is probably a bit thin.

 

[Wolfstuka]

i think they should fix all the improper recoil on the weapons, rifles can still compete just maybe not on really small maps but then obviously one would want an smg on a small map anyway

 

[Dav1d]

I find the sight blending into the environments the most annoying thing, its much more noticable with the german guns though. On the mosins it seems much easier to aim with

 

[jedinstven-o crni Wuk]

SVT too much recoil.... right.

If you lowered the recoil, you would just turn it into a hipshooters rail-gun dream

As for the view, it is probably a bit thin.

well, as i heard, its not able to shot the SVT/G43 as fast you can pull the triger ... like its in game now.

And from all videos i seen, they shot the semi rifles with much higher delay between the shots. Though i coud be wrong here, is never used one of them.

 

[GonzoX]

No, the SVT shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger. This is indicitave of all Semi Auto rifles. That's why they are called them Semi-Auto in the first place.

The problem stems from having to realign your sight picture after each shot because of the muzzle climb from recoil. This is WAY overdone in the game vs real life.

In real life my SVT barrel only climbs approx 1/2 inch upwards from recoil allowing me quick follow up shots. In the game the damn thing goes up something like 2-3 inches and if you keep shooting in rapid succession you rifle will be wind up shooting at the moon.

The same problem presents itself with the SMGs in this game in that you should only have to adjust for the initial burst recoil and then the weapon should be ballanced out. In the game however, the muzzle keeps climbing up as if the weapons was ballanced on a string with nothing holding it or something.

I understand the game ballance issues but I also think it needs to be toned down a bit to more realistic recoil levels.

 

[Reise]

I always thought the SVT in-game was rather thin, maybe that's the problem?

 

[GRU.51]

I appreciate your post very much,it s always amazeing when somebody who actually owns and even shot theses weapons can make a statement.Thanks a lot for your answer!


The developers made a brilliant game,it seems like they only made the real big mistakes when it comes to the recoil.For example the recoil of the PPSH-41 is way too strong,especially while standing.Almost any SMG has too much recoil while standing.

As you are interested in weapons,check these videos of the PPSH-41 in action:
http://www.ppsh41.com/mpg.html

Again,thx a lot for your answer

All the best.

Sorry but the first three PPSH-41's in the videos are .22 conversions, as such having much less recoil. The last video being of a 9mm. I've yet to see a video of a REAL PPSH-41 fire 7.62x25 ammunition.

 

[Boogerhead]

Sorry but the first three PPSH-41's in the videos are .22 conversions, as such having much less recoil. The last video being of a 9mm. I've yet to see a video of a REAL PPSH-41 fire 7.62x25 ammunition.

This might be one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8512921834081800269

Another, possibly:
http://www.mustywindows.com/videos/411

There's no way to tell what ammunition is in there.

 

[GonzoX]

Sorry but the first three PPSH-41's in the videos are .22 conversions, as such having much less recoil. The last video being of a 9mm. I've yet to see a video of a REAL PPSH-41 fire 7.62x25 ammunition.

I have a video but no place to host it. PM me if you want it.

 

[Zbojnik]

I agree with you the sights are too small. I was shooting my uncle's SVT-40 last week and I agree with Gonzo the recoil is not very large. However it seems to have recoil that makes the M38 and 44 look like pea shooters.

 

[Theodrake]

SVT too much recoil.... right.

If you lowered the recoil, you would just turn it into a hipshooters rail-gun dream

As for the view, it is probably a bit thin.

They should reduce the recoil when you have the bipod icon. As it is if you rest the SVT on a sandbag and fire the recoil is too much. I agree, don't reduce the recoil for hip shooting, but they should a little for IS and a lot for the resting against something shots.

 

[Dheepan]

Yep I liked the sights of the mod better, as it now it is very difficult for me to aim with the svt. I don't really care about the recoil. The kar sights ingame are also a bit hard to aim with especially compared with the mosin but it's still a great gun. If I had my ppsh has mod level recoil I would be a happy man

 

[EvilAmericanMan]

In RO the back sight is not as low as it is in the real-life picture. As in the back sight in the picture is at the base of the front sight, in RO I don't think this is the case.

 

[GRU.51]

This might be one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8512921834081800269

Another, possibly:
http://www.mustywindows.com/videos/411

There's no way to tell what ammunition is in there.

You just linked to the same videos as the first guy... their both .22 conversions.

 

[GonzoX]

You just linked to the same videos as the first guy... their both .22 conversions.

First one posted is same video I have and it IS NOT A 22.

Second link does nothing for me.

GRU.51, have you ever shot a rifle ever in your life?

 

[Hyperion2010]

The recoil might be a bit high but the sight is not too big. You will notice that in that pic bas does not actually have the sight perfectly lined up for shooting, which makes it appear to be larger.