Question(s) about M44

[engineer]

Will the M44 bayonet deploy speed be any faster than those of the guns that do not have integral bayonets?

Also, will the Mosin carbines get their notoriously large muzzleflash/louder bang?

 

[derspiess]

I hope so on both, although really the muzzle flash/blast on the M44 should pretty much match that of the M38

 

[kempe]

I hope so on both, although really the muzzle flash/blast on the M44 should pretty much match that of the M38

well their vertually the same rifle so one would hope so

 

[derspiess]

well their vertually the same rifle so one would hope so

I guess my point was that you can't very well make the muzzle blast on the M44 as cool as we'd like it, unless you change it on the M38 as well.

 

[Kurtz]

Why are you asking? Is the M44 confirmed to be in an update or something?

 

[diekrankenfuhrer]

Why are you asking? Is the M44 confirmed to be in an update or something?

I guess you haven't played all the maps yet. The MP44 is available on the Konigsplatz map. Its a load out option for the Schtosstruppem instead of the mp40.

 

[[FERGIE]]

No i think he means a new weapon caled the mosin 44, not the mp44/stg43

 

[JCoquillon]

He's talking about the mosin-nagant model '44 which is basically a cut down 91/30 with a hinged crucifix bayonet permanantly attached. In practice most troops kept their spike bayonets atatched to their 91/30s as they didn't unbalance the gun like a standard bayonet can, but the gun was simply that bit too long to be entirely practical in modern warfare, hence creating the m44 version.

Check out this news thread for confirmation http://www.redorchestragame.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2_start=5

 

[Jung]

Something about the M44, it's just ugly :O Didn't they just barely see the end of the war?

 

[engineer]

Something about the M44, it's just ugly :O Didn't they just barely see the end of the war?

Production started in 1943 with a small (for russian standards) field test run, then a bunch were made in 1944 and early 1945. They were built until the late 1940s, IIRC.

 

[Jung]

Yeah, most of the ones I see for sale are 1945. I do like the built in bayonet though

 

[derspiess]

Production started in 1943 with a small (for russian standards) field test run, then a bunch were made in 1944 and early 1945. They were built until the late 1940s, IIRC.

Yep, here's the Izhevsk arsenal production figures (almost all were made there):

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Izhevsk Model 1944 Production[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1943[/FONT]-[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 50,000
1944- [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3,620,000[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
1945- [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3,472,245
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1946- [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]189,027[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1947- [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]120,061[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
1948- [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]160,498[/FONT]

Supposedly the machinery was moved to Poland, where the Poles started manufacturing the M44 in the early 50's, then maybe to Hungary or Romania.

Here's a really good article on the M44 from mosinnagant.net:

http://www.mosinnagant.net/USSR/Russian-M44-Carbine.asp