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WWII Weapons on Eastern Front

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The German submachineguns

MP 38, MP 38/40, MP 40


After 1938 the MP 38 was invented in the German mobile units and her
sucession specimen nearly revolutionized the design of submachineguns. Indeed these submachineguns were like their predecessors, the MP18 and the MP28, recoilloaders and used the classic 9mm Parabellum round, but the art of construction, which was at the outset designed on a cheap massproduction, was accomplished very consequential for the first time.
One abadoned on wood and the MP38 was the first submachinegun, that had instead of an complex woodbutt an fold-away shoulderbacking and a case made out of ironsheeting. All blanked sheetingparts and also the components of of the breechblock were able to be built with low comlexity in each factory who converted metal. Although the MP38 and MP40 were often called
 
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Pistolet-Pulemjet Sudaeva obr 1943G (PPS43)


The Soviet policy in WWII was to concentrate rigidly on one model for each type of weapon, but during the siege of Leningrad the supply of PPSh41s fell very low. A prototype was hurriedly developed in a local factory in a design suitable for the equipment available. Quite naturally, it was simple in the extreme, but proved to be quite effective and was subsequently developed into the PPS43. Unusual for a Soviet weapon, the PPS43 used only the 35 round box magazine.


Caliber: 7.62x25mm Soviet auto
Length: 32.72 in ( 831mm)
Weight (unloaded): 6 lb 13 oz(3.10 kg)
Barrel: 10 in (254mm), 4 groove, right-hand twist
Magazine: 35 round detachable box
Ammunition: Type P; 86 gr bullet, 8 gr charge (1.35in lng
Type P-41; 74 gr bullet, 8 gr charge , AP/Incdy (1.36in lng)
Rate of Fire: 700 rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 1500 fps P1; 1600fps P-41
 
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well, i got some knowledge about weapons, but its only the kind ow jnowledge you gain while browsing these boards, playing RO and other shooters, and taking some interested looks at world.guns.ru or the websites of big gun companys. but i dont think we should legalize selling of guns to anyone in this country you seem to call the 4th reich...

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PPD-40 submachine gun (Pistolet-Pulemjet Degtyarova)


The PPD (Pistolet-Pulemyot Degtyarova) had been developed by famous Russian small arms designer Fedor Degtyarov by 1934. It was formally adopted by the Red Army in 1935 and entered limited production as the PPD-34. Made in small numbers, it was mostly relegated for NKVD use, mostly for border guards. Slightly modified in 1938, it was then produced until 1939 in PPD-34/38 variation, with newly developed 71 rounds drum with long neck. After the Winter War experience (1940 war between USSR and Finland), new version of PPD has been rapidly developed, with the most visible change being the two-part stock, cut to accept new pattern of drums, which had no neck. This became the PPD-40. After the outbreak of the Great Patriotic War in 1941, it was soon been discovered that the PPD-40 is less than ideal for wartime production, so it was quickly replaced by the more efficient and inexpensive PPSh-41, which appeared in great numbers and was widely used by Red Army.
The PPD-38 was a conventional arm of its period, being greatly inspired by the Bergmann-Schmeisser MP 28 submachine gun. All versions of PPD were simple blowback weapons, fired from open bolt. Machined receiver and vented barrel shroud were of round cross-section. PPD were fitted with tangent type rear sights, rather optimistically marked up to 500 meters. Models of 1934 and 1938 vintage gad single piece wooden stocks, while last model of 1940 had two piece stock with distinctive cut made for magazine housing

Caliber: [FONT=&quot]7,62x25mm Tokarev (7.63mm Mauser) [/FONT]
Weight: 3.63 kg w/o magazine; 5.45 kg with loaded 71 rounds drum
Length: 788 mm
Barrel length: mm
Rate of fire: 800 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 71 rounds drums (also 25 rounds box magazines in PPD-34 and PPD-34/38)
Effective range: 200 meters
 
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7.62mm Tokarev Semiautomatic Rifle SVT40


The Tokarev-designed weapons relied on gas operation with a locking block cammed downwards at the rear into a recess in the receiver floor. The SVT38 was the first of the Tokarev automatic rifles, replacing the Simonov AVS, probably as being more simple, but it was itself fragile. A more robust version, the SVT40 shown here, was characterized by the removal of the earlier rifle's externally mounted cleaning rod, which was mounted instead, as per convention, beneath the barrel. There was only a single barrel band, beyond which a sheet metal handguard extended forward. On the SVT40 it was of wrap-around type as opposed to the metal and wood forward guard of the SVT38. Air circulation holes were drilled into the guard, and four rectangular slots appeared through the wooden continuation. Two variations in muzzle brake design existed: the first had six slim baffles, replaced in later production by a unit having only two large baffles. Selected specimens of the SVT40 were equipped with telescopic sights and issued to snipers.


Length: 48.27 in
Weight, unloaded: 8lb 9oz
Barrel: 24.02 in, 4 turns, right hand twist
Magazine: 10 round, detachable box
Muzzle Velocity: c.2756 fps
Ammo: Russian Light Ball M'08
Bullet, 148gr; charge, 48gr;

 
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Finnish M31 (Suomi) SMG. Suomi = Finland in finnish

SUOMIsivu.jpg



CHARACTERISTICS OF M31 SUOMI SUBMACHINE GUN

Caliber: 9.00 mm Parabellum
Length overall: 863.6 mm ( 34 in )
Weight: 5.13 kg ( 11,31 lb. )
Feed device: 70 and 40 round drum magazines, 20, 36 and 50 box magazines
Cyclic rate: 800-900 r.p.m.

Info:
Suomi M/31 submachinegun proved to be excellent submachinegun: It had superb firepower, excellent accuracy, good muzzle-velocity and outstanding reliability. Only minus for its users was its weight. In Winter War it ended up being used as squad support weapon of Rifle Squad as kind of a replacement of light machinegun. It didn't excel in this role, but when a proper using tactic was understood it became immediate success. It gave individual capable soldiers excellent short-range firepower in relatively compact form - light machineguns were still large and heavy compared to it. Thanks to quite good ergonomics, rather long barrel (when compared to other submachineguns of that time), small recoil, powerfully loaded ammunition and quite good sights (rear sight had rather optimistically settings up to 500 metres) it gave better accuracy and had longer range then most other submachineguns of its time. In Finnish forests its range typically proved quite long enough and thanks to 70-round drums and fast rate-of-fire Suomi M/31 was able to spread more lead into air than most light machineguns of that time. Suomi M/31 become favoured weapon among Finnish troops, soon they got distributed to best soldiers who knew to how to get maximum performance out of them. Before Continuation War armament of Finnish rifle squads got re-planned, now every rifle squad got both light machinegun (as support weapon of Rifle Squad) and submachinegun for short-range firepower. Autumn of 1942 Finnish Armed forces finally had all the submachineguns needed according their TO&E, but Suomi M/31 had proved so effective that at that point committee led by General Heinricks went ahead and decided to recommend adding 2nd submachinegun to all Rifle Squads as soon as possible. By end of 1943 enough Suomi M/31 submachineguns had been manufactured for this new TO&E to be fulfilled, so then decision about adding a third submachinegun to every rifle squad was made, but this didn't materialise in large scale before Continuation War ended halting the Finnish weapons production. Early June 1944 number of Suomi M/31 submachineguns in use of Finnish Armed Forces had peaked to bit over 52,600.

Models:

"M31 I": http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kp_Suomi_1.jpg
"M31 II" http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/kp_suomi_4.jpg (only difference is the muzzle brake in end of barrel)
"Trench M31" http://www.pkymasehist.fi/suomi_3.jpg
"Tank M31" http://guns.connect.fi/gow/stanksiv.jpg

Interesting Fact:
Both, Hitler and Stalin had their own personal M31(Suomi) SMG:s :p
Hitler got it as a gift from Finlands Marshal Mannerheim and Stalin "got" it as war booty
 
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Sormus said:
Weren't PPSH & PPD based on Suomi-kpp, which was based on the Bergmann m20?
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Yes, Lahti started designing Suomi SMG from Bergmann, he corrected some of its weaknesses and made some changes to it but yes, Bergman was where designing of Suomi began :)

And yes, PPD and PPSH smgs were, based on Suomi SMG, theyr not identical, but there are many similarityes :) Actually PPSH
 
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