point being...? The decision to initially use the turbine was controversial, and still is. This has nothing to do with it being technologically superior...it's a concession of some range towards greater acceleration and speed.SgtH3nry3 said:The M1A2 Abrams isn't technically superior because it uses the LV100-5 gasturbine engine.
lets see....Which means it's range is 391 kilometers when it has no ammo onboard and it's uses crazy amounts of JP-8 fuel
Challenger II max road range - 450km/1797 litre fuel = 3.99 litres/km
Leo 2A6 - max range 500km/1200 litre fuel = 2.4 litres/km
M1A1 SEP - max range 265 miles (425km)/1907 litres = 4.48 litres/km
yep - thirsty...don't know if this mileage info is for the AGT1500 or the LV100-5
out of curiosity, what's the MAC of diesel fumes...?which is known for it's hazardous fumes which cause various heavy cancers.
Even the exhaust gas has a MAC value of C3!
have you ever even looked thru a thermal sight or a FLIR? Hate to say it, but EVERY vehicle - tracked or not - has a fairly large heat signature, and is fairly easy to pick out on the darkest nights...It's heatsignature is huge!
Compared with other tanks like the Challenger 2 and Leopard 2A6, which uses the Perkins-Caterpillar CV12 turbocharged dieselengine and the French MTU MB873 turbo supercharged diesel engines, the M1A2 Abrams would make very easy targets for Flankers, Frogfoots and their likes.
and the LeClerc and 2A6 have proven themselves against......what...? The Abrams has proven it can take enemy fire and the crew will survive..Until now the Abrams have only proven itself against outdated Russian main-battle tanks.
here's a site for you....remember getting this as a briefing when I was still on active:
http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/US-Field-Manuals/abrams-oif.pdf
The way armor and armaments are today - first shot will win...doesn't matter WHAT tank you're in. Put me in a M60A3 with M829 super sabot rounds(edit, the M829 in the 120mm, the 105mm is the M900) - in a good defensive position - and half decent gunner would take out the LeClerc, Leo, Challenger AND the AbramsBut it won't survive from the French A1 LeClerc, the German Leopard 2A6 or the British Challenger 2.
Amazing...a tanker for 13 years, and I'm still alive from all the toxic fumes I sucked in while drying my fart sack, clothes, heating coffee and MRE's, and staying warm in the winter. You want to make a groundpounder's day - roll your pig up and give them some heatEDIT: The fumes are too hot and too toxic to make them usable for urban infantry support.
They have to use M2A2's for that!
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