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German magical AT rifle
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No.
PTRS/PTRD 14,5mm x 114mm BS-41 Tungsten projectiles penetrate:
40mm @ 100m @ 90
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I have pre-ordered the game and will be enjoying it. But part of the attraction for me was the historical accuracy. The MKb42s and a German PTRS being a standard weapon detracts from the immersion, at least for me.
The reload time and general effectiveness of the SMGs at close range (as seen in the beta footage) is a concern of mine as well.
Why have the German AT rifle class at all if it can't harm the single Russian tank? My guess is that they've taken some liberties here as well.
On the subject of the GrB 39 though, why choose such a hefty platform for a grenade launcher? I can see them converting all the obsolete guns to GrBs but why produce more when they needlessly weigh a ton? I can only assume that they weren't really used on a large scale, and that they were just temporary placeholserds until the Panzershcreck, Faust, Schiessbecher and other grenade platforms arrived.
The reload time and general effectiveness of the SMGs at close range (as seen in the beta footage) is a concern of mine as well.
Why have the German AT rifle class at all if it can't harm the single Russian tank? My guess is that they've taken some liberties here as well.
On the subject of the GrB 39 though, why choose such a hefty platform for a grenade launcher? I can see them converting all the obsolete guns to GrBs but why produce more when they needlessly weigh a ton? I can only assume that they weren't really used on a large scale, and that they were just temporary placeholserds until the Panzershcreck, Faust, Schiessbecher and other grenade platforms arrived.
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It's off topic, but SMGs are supposed to be absolutely superior close range. The balance being they aren't terribly effective at longer ranges, and they are a very limited class in any traditional game mode.
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I think TWI needs to keep the AT rifles powerful until they can implement new AT weapons down the road, then nerf the AT rifles to realistic power.
Of course I'm just a player and this is my opinion.
Also can small arms still shatter optics?
Of course I'm just a player and this is my opinion.
Also can small arms still shatter optics?
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TWI said they plan on adding the German half track and Soviet UC in an update sometime post release along with 2 more tanks.
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These At rifles will be deadly for occupants in the Hanomag and Bren Carrier....
And the PZIII and T-70 when they are released.
And the PZIII and T-70 when they are released.
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I don't really understand what the problem is. The tank didn't even look like it took damage and he even said he wouldn't do much damage at the range, so for all we know he just scratched the paint. To me it looks like AT is going to play more of a support role; maybe through spotting and wounding in conjunction with tank crews, or even using that mine in some situations.
Obviously a tank is going to be the better choice against another tank, so maybe this is more of a middle ground between vehicles and regular infantry to prevent an all out steamroll (maybe you have no vehicles at the moment, but you can still slow the enemy down with something).
I'll wait for the beta before I pass final judgement on it
Obviously a tank is going to be the better choice against another tank, so maybe this is more of a middle ground between vehicles and regular infantry to prevent an all out steamroll (maybe you have no vehicles at the moment, but you can still slow the enemy down with something).
I'll wait for the beta before I pass final judgement on it
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As someone who prefers his clavicle in non-toothpick form, I'm quite happy to use my AT rifle in flank, rear and overhead shooting. I also intend on dropping the thing and grabbing a Mauser whenever the magnetic mine seems the better tool for the job.
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I think the Gewehr panzergranate (30 and Grosse 40) was issued in 1943 and were largely inaccurate and impractical due to limited range.
There may have been a hollow charge type grenade before that as well, but I would imagine that it was even worse.
It would still have provided a nice asymmetrical balance with the germans having inferior AT rifles while some riflemen could carry AT rifle grenades which would require skill or luck to be effective.
For the S-18, take a look at these two videos, pretty cool:
Solothurn 20mm anti-tank rifle - YouTube
nazi 20 mm SOLOTHURN S 18 100 ANTI TANK SEMI AUTO RIFLE - YouTube
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if you ever used the at rifle on ro1 it was like that. I played this game for years and I just now got the tread breaker achievement the other day. they are more for disabling tanks and hitting weaker armor points to do so.
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I'd like to see one documented instance of one actually knocking out an MBT in WWII ... didn't really happen until the 50mm antitank gun came out, and that was almost instantly obsolete until it was replaced with the 75mm.
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