Uber Tuber...

[Undedd Jester]

I've asked this a number of times, but its gotten lost in amoungst the depths of the forums, so I figured I would put this forward direct.

My concern is that the potato "Uber Tuber" achievement is going to be a permanent achievement for the game, thus preventing anyone who didn't get it during the event from ever unlocking it. Unless it is gonna be deleted once this portal stuff is over it will irk me constantly. So whats gonna happen with this achievement? Is it going to stay? Is the potato going to disappear and prevent anyone ever unlocking it again?

Reason I ask is it would be real gutting to finally get to 99% complete only to find I need that 1 unobtainable achievement to complete the game.

If the achievement does stick around after the update, my suggestion would be to make into a proper KF achievement, perhaps with a token to the KF mod.

E.g. Off the top of my head

Spoiler!

Change the achievement to something like "Running Around Like Insects..."

Have the item "floppy disk" instead of the potato. Perhaps it could have Clamely scrawled on its picture, and when you buy it it opens a window like it does for the aperture page. However instead of opening to the aperture page, have a page reading similar to the final speech Sgt Masterson gave to the survivor at the end of the original game (Modified to fit KF retails history of course )

To make it an absolutely awesome achievement, how about have it so that it only appears for purchase on the last trader wave of either Suicidal or Hell on Earth and will cost the collective value of the entire teams assets at the start of the trader wave to buy. This means that in order to purchase it, every single player has to sell all their sellable gear and pool it all together. Once purchased the message goes to everyone in the server and adds an extra minute onto the trader time so that players can read it.

Probably something like:

“You certainly outlasted your platoon soldiers. I should congratulate you. As you know by now Horzine Corp was responsible for the outbreak in London. It was my ambition to create the perfect soldier… something that couldn’t experience pain, or fear… that wouldn’t question or reason. The city was just a victim of Horzine’s accomplishments. But this is all redundant. You have seen first hand, the power of the creatures developed in my Biotic Lab installation… I am here myself, because I wanted to meet you first hand. My fellow scientists at Horzine didn’t stop with engineering these monsters… they created me. I was their last project during the outbreak. I am the perfect specimen. Like any experiment, I was conducted for a purpose, and that would be the elimination of your pathetic species. You and your friends, your fellow soldiers followed into my trap blindly. It began with the units I elminated in the quarantine… and it will end with you!”

Once the trader wave ends players will only have their knives and pistols plus whatever nades and armour they had left from the previous wave to fight the Patriarch. Without a hell of alot carefully placed pipes... which given the life of the Patty and the money available in HoE, it would be impossible to beat him.

Would be a great final stamp to complete the game

 

[Gartley]

Although my friends and I have gained the achievement. I would happlily hand it back in favour of this achievement.

I'm not a fan of achievments, they're a bit of fun but otherwise just unneeded padding. But when they go out their way to show the player something. ie backstory. Then they get my support.

I'd love to see this in place.

 

[Dolphin Buff Man]

Yeah, i don't want the achievement to dissapear because that would leave people trying to 100% left out, so this would be a good wat to fix the problem. Either that or keep the original thing and just have a potato...

 

[Geressen]

I'd like it to stay too

otherwise i'll never get it in time :'(

 

[͡ °๏Rɐnɐ-Sɐmɐ๏͡°]

Achievements are so unnecessary....

 

[Undedd Jester]

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[Benjamin]

It is frustrating that not only do many of the achievements fail to unlock half of the time, but there are also achievements that are no longer possible to unlock since you didn't have time (or the game) when the event was going on. So I agree with you.

 

[lammah]

Even though I got both uber tuber and golden potato. Its a bit silly to have unreachable achievements. They should either be reinstated or removed completely. Leaving them unattainable only leads to some frustrated players.

The twisted christmas achievements, which I failed to get because I was new then, do not worry me as much. I believe (hope?) they will be available again next christmas. I just hope I am not wrong on this one

 

[starxpilot]

I like the idea, but if they did something with a DLC being 'once in a lifetime', its very unlikely that event achievements will be permanently avaliable

 

[Raziel]

This is probably gonna get me downvoted, but I've to say no.
Those achievements are part of promotional events, just like all the no longer achievable models.
Difference is: models actually have an effect on the game itself, while achievements are just useless.
So why make a exception just because some people want to e-peen ?

 

[Undedd Jester]

I suppose I can loosely see the arguement, but I disagree.

Firstly there is a difference between e-peening and merely trying to "complete" the game. Achievements represent a goal to be achieved within the game. They are there so that a player can achieve them. Why have an achievement that cannot be achieved? Its redundant.

The Portal achievements are promotional sure, but you cannot compare them to models. Models are different. People actually PAYED for their exclusive models. Achievements only available during a certain time of year? Fine, as long as there is another chance to get them. They are still achievable.

Furthermore models don't have an effect on the game, they merely change the appearance of the player, nothing more. That is the exact reason they are sold as DLC, because tripwire don't want to split the community. Achievements however are actually part of the game, they are something you unlock by completeing objectives within the game, and should still be attainable for new players, otherwise they have fewer things to aim for than their predeccesors. Whether you agree with achievements or not, you are techinically giving them less of a game.

Lastly why on earth is the golden potato still there if there is no reason for it? It makes no sense to open the door since you put yourself in a compromising position trying to get inside. The content of the map is therefore completely useless.

Promotional or not, achievements should be attainable somehow, regardless of when the game is bought.

 

[ph30nix]

This is probably gonna get me downvoted, but I've to say no.
Those achievements are part of promotional events, just like all the no longer achievable models.
Difference is: models actually have an effect on the game itself, while achievements are just useless.
So why make a exception just because some people want to e-peen ?

no point in down voting ( ifeel that button is used far to easily by most people)

but to counter that opion by not bringing it back or removing it from achivement list they are already letting people stroke their e-peen, just a differnt group of people.

 

[kablooie!]

The only complaint I could understand would be from people who just bought the game and never had a chance to get it. If there was a way to make it not show up on their achievement list, that would make the most sense... but I'm gonna assume that is either tedious or not even possible at all.

As for everybody who had the chance to get it but decided not to for whatever reason, I don't have any sympathy. If you care about achievements as much as you seem to, you would already have it simply because it was fairly obvious it was going to go away.... it was a bloody promotion!

 

[Undedd Jester]

Not neccessarily.

I personally thought the achievements would go away after the promotion because the only reason they existed was to find clues for the ARG. I didn't bother with them because by the time I got round to them they had already been solved

I did ask if they were sticking around or not several times, this thread included if you look at the date, but I never got an answer

I'm quite happy for them to be here, as long as they can still be achieved, but I would prefer they are added to Killing Floor as a proper achievement for Killing Floor, not just some random Portal based achievement. Lets face it, the hype has gone by, it no longer makes any sense

 

[ljM]

I agree with jester, and think it's completely pointless to have a one-time achievement.

It isn't fair for people who were busy/inactive/unavailable around the time of the potato hype and isn't fair for new players.

Should either be removed or changed!

 

[kablooie!]

I agree with jester, and think it's completely pointless to have a one-time achievement.

It isn't fair for people who were busy/inactive/unavailable around the time of the potato hype and isn't fair for new players.

Should either be removed or changed!

and how is it fair to those of us who actually took the time to get it if you remove/change it?

 

[Undedd Jester]

and how is it fair to those of us who actually took the time to get it if you remove/change it?

They were promotional, promotions over, achievement is invalid

Nah I'm just poking fun

Seriously though the arguement "You can't get this achievement because it was promotional" is a very flimsy arguement. The addition of these achievements came with the map kf-aperture, why should an achievement inherant to this map suddenly stop functioning if the map is still here?

In regards to Uber Tuber, its only purpose for adding it was to find a clue to the ARG to get Portal 2 released early. Surely now the ARG is solved and Portal 2 is released the achievement is now served its purpose and doesn't have a reason to be in the game anymore. If however it is going to stay as an achievement, it should still be attainable for other players.

I know I'm harping on about this alot, but I attained all of the original achievements for Killing Floor, I plan to do the same for all these new achievements, just because its something to do. If however I'm going to be permanently stuck on 99% because I didn't have the time to get a party together to actually go for these achievements during the ARG I won't bother at all, becuase it will constantly erk me to see it.

 

[Lubaz]

I dont care for achivements, i play Killing Floor to go rambo and screw the rest of my team.

 

[spike19]

Was there every any result, can we now finally get the awards or are we still hoping that he promotional achievements come back around at some point?

 

[McCrabby]

imo people should care less about achievements, BUT I really like the "running around like insects" idea. an achievement for going epic mode against the patty plus a little bit of lore thrown in is exactly what this game needs. Maybe we should have a map achievement category for doing this