I bet that was more or at least equally as common as the 12 XM21s they got issued. Which apparently justifies it.
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By the time the ANZAC entered the war with regular troops, the M60 was already introduced for years in numbers. First orders for testing were in 1960. In 1961 the first production models came in. By the time they entered the war officially in 1965, it was pretty much a matter of choice which LMG to use. The L2A1 couldn't do much what the L1A1 could do also, at a lighter weight. That's probably why there aren't that much pictures around of the L2A1. At that time there were different muzzle devices available. It might have been a choice in the armory, which one to use. Usually soldiers will favour less weight and that might be the reason why that big recoil reducer didn't see much use. The L2A1 isn't really suited for automatic fire anyways. The handbook recommends bursts of 2-3 rounds for effectively accurate fire. At that rate a semi auto L1A1 is not that much inferior. And firing from a closed bolt makes that plattform undesirable for extensive fire anyways.Destraex;n2306353 said:They do seem to pair them up with 60s as well... where in this game they sub for the 60 as the main and only SAW/GPMG
At that point I don't see it hurting anything to give the Marksman class a scoped L1A1 as a loadout alternative to the XM21 down the road.Lemonater47;n2306433 said:I bet that was more or at least equally as common as the 12 XM21s they got issued. Which apparently justifies it.
That sounds too good to be not balanced with an awful scope like the SVD. A FAL with low magnification scope could be easily gamebreaking overpowered.Jagdwyre;n2306555 said:At that point I don't see it hurting anything to give the Marksman class a scoped L1A1 as a loadout alternative to the XM21 down the road.
Gladius;n2306600 said:That sounds too good to be not balanced with an awful scope like the SVD. A FAL with low magnification scope could be easily gamebreaking overpowered.
You like to compare lemons with oranges...Lemonater47;n2306606 said:Evidence would suggest otherwise.
Only got to look as far as RO2.
How exactly would that be overpowered in any way? It's still just a semi-auto rifle, and if it's accuracy was modeled realistically it wouldn't even be as accurate as the XM21(which already has a low powered scope with pretty good FOV).Gladius;n2306600 said:That sounds too good to be not balanced with an awful scope like the SVD. A FAL with low magnification scope could be easily gamebreaking overpowered.
Yeah and they shouldn't be. The "balance reasons" are complete bull**** imo. Scopes don't magically make rifles death machines where they need other attributes reduced, not in RS2 at least.Gladius;n2306631 said:The XM21 is gimped down with a slow time to go into aim down sights and abysmal sway. When you fired a real battlerifle of that class, with a low magnification scope, then you should rather understand what I mean. Marksmen rifles are crippled in that game for balance reasons.
That's right, I didn't say that weapon shouldn't be added per se. I'm saying that a realistic portrayal would be easily gamebreaking overpowered to the standards of the current marksman rifles.Jagdwyre;n2306632 said:In any case that has nothing to do with adding a scoped L1A1 or not, you're now talking about how scoped rifles are treated in general in the game.
You've given me zero insight into why you think it would even be overpowered other than saying "it would be overpowered." I've mentioned why I don't think it would be at all, engagement ranges, ease of use of iron sights in the game, map design, and what weapons people realistically actually get a ton of kills with in RS2.Gladius;n2306633 said:That's right, I didn't say that weapon shouldn't be added per se. I'm saying that a realistic portrayal would be easily gamebreaking overpowered to the standards of the current marksman rifles.
Yeah no, it would not be the best gun in the game. I really honestly have no idea why you think it would be. If they reduced the sway of the XM21 to what the M14 has and increased the speed at which you could scope in similar to how fast you can with iron sights it wouldn't be the best gun in the game, let alone "easily." The exact same would be true for a scoped L1A1.Gladius;n2306646 said:The RO2 comparison falls short because the environment is totally different. Not much bushes in RO2 and the tactical scenario is more symmetric. Iron sights aren't realistic either in RS2, because they obscure the field of view. If you would portray a FAL with a x4 scope realistically, that would be easily the best gun in the game. And that's not gonna happen and you know it. What we will more likely get is something gimped like the XM21 mechanic.
Gladius;n2306607 said:You like to compare lemons with oranges...
Opinionator speaking for anyone.Lemonater47;n2306748 said:Overall consensus is they made the weapons worse. Ask anyone.
Gladius;n2306858 said:Opinionator speaking for anyone.