There could even be a sticky only to remind people about that, judging by the amount of times this is brought into the discussion
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RO2 Anti-cheat
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There could even be a sticky only to remind people about that, judging by the amount of times this is brought into the discussion
There has been one in the KF and RO forums since forever At launch of RO 2, there will be one here as well.
At launch of RO 2, there will be one here as well.
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Did anybody even read this? Or is just common knowledge how they bypass screenshot detection and so my comment is meaningless.
If I am not mistaken they can detect when PB is going to take a screenshot of their screen by Hooking the DirectDraw function and reading if PB accesses it, when DirectDraw is called by the PB module, they disable all visual hacks for a few seconds simply by toggling a bool in their hack.
I am by no means an expert, I just read up on a lot of these kind of things to keep on how people are cheating me.
There has been one in the KF and RO forums since forever
So not only are you guys implementing 2 Anti-Cheat systems, you are also taking a direct approach at counter hacking yourselves? Or am I mistaken. It would be nice to you guys not simply relying on the 3rd party Anti-Cheat systems to prevent hacking this game, this game is far too good people exploiting its potential with hacks of any kind.
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At launch BFBC2 had so many punkbuster problems
even say, a hiccup in your internet connection would kick you from a match for "Punkbuster heartbeat fails"
after gigs of patching and months later DICE sorta fixed it.. I say sorta cause all though my problems went away
Problems started for my friend
In my experience in BFBC2 overall
it caused more problems than it solved... still encountered many aimbotters
and im talkin about blatantly obvious ones too
they would fire an lmg in the air and each shot is a headshot
lol
that game made me rage often
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It was around 1.5 yrs ago and all these files could be simply googled,thats why we tested this to see how many people could potentially use them. But after some time everyone has lost interest in RO,so i saw no pint in continuing researches in this field.
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Does not sound like you have read up on TWI's approach then, as they clearly do not simply rely on 3rd party anti-cheat.
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Ah thats good to hear.
However I posted in an unclear way as I always do. I was meaning that sentence in a question form for confirmation weather do infact take a direct approach. Will be cool to see how they handle the Private hacks being Rented out to dimwits stupid enough to pay a monthly subscription to cheat in a game.
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That could go for any game, not just RO. If you find cheats for any FPS game you play that uses VAC or PB, send the files to the respective parties involved so they can create fixes to help combat cheats.
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Indeed, if you dont do that you cant expect them to start detecting them. If they dont even know about them how could they detect them?
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lol
lol
just wondering how will this work vac and pb streaming together is'nt this a case of 2 many cooks???? and how will this affect players with lower speeds will they lag?
lol
just wondering how will this work vac and pb streaming together is'nt this a case of 2 many cooks???? and how will this affect players with lower speeds will they lag?
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There You go Panzerklein...As already mentioned...YOU...Yes YOU get to decide the level of protection You want.....Bit like wearing 2 layers of Durex with Deepheat inbetween:IS2:
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I've never seen Punkbuster implemented well. I hope that the majority of servers never implement it.
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Pb works just fine in a lot of games, counting previous Cod titles or Bf titles.
It's an anti cheat that works a lot better than VAC imo, and having them both now is a great thing.
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If there is a server with PB enabled, then don't join it. No one is forcing you to like PB or to use it.
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Good to see the three pronged approach, and involving the community.
The best part and also the only bit that will really work is being able to submit known cheats directly to the developer.
i know little about VAC beyond its reputation, which to my ears isnt good, but Punkbuster is a Tool.
And like any Tool, its only helpful if its fully utilised. Adding a community like PBBANS helps in that utlisation leaps and bounds, so thumbs up there.
Given that both systems are still flawed, and users are easily defeating them in the latest games (ala BC2) it does make me wonder why Developers still depend on third party entities to protect their hard wrought IP though. Surely the best person to write an anticheat for anything would be the Developers themselves?
Thats not directly aimed at RO btw, just something I often wonder about across the entire gaming industry these days. Sure, there was a time when Punkbuster was fairly good at protecting games, that time however passed years ago.
The best part and also the only bit that will really work is being able to submit known cheats directly to the developer.
i know little about VAC beyond its reputation, which to my ears isnt good, but Punkbuster is a Tool.
And like any Tool, its only helpful if its fully utilised. Adding a community like PBBANS helps in that utlisation leaps and bounds, so thumbs up there.
Given that both systems are still flawed, and users are easily defeating them in the latest games (ala BC2) it does make me wonder why Developers still depend on third party entities to protect their hard wrought IP though. Surely the best person to write an anticheat for anything would be the Developers themselves?
Thats not directly aimed at RO btw, just something I often wonder about across the entire gaming industry these days. Sure, there was a time when Punkbuster was fairly good at protecting games, that time however passed years ago.
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I really have no love for PB, its really annoying that when you want to play it doesn't update itself, that only happened to me with Battlefield 2 and BFBC2... Maybe i wont have it in RO2...
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Interesting topic this however remember Homefront which was just released used the U3 engine and was hacked to pieces ...
I've been working in IT for years and developed and designed all sorts of stuff but what I fail to understand is why do game studios rely on 3rd party cheat detection systems .... no money in it is my guess.
Surely the best way to catch cheats is to add it directly into the games code base ... if you detect an anonomly disable the users key from MP access.
There must be loads of ways the in game developers can determine if a game is hacked ... hec they can run there own programs to monitor game files, take in game images and analyse directly on the clients pc, gee they can even add in encyption on all sorts of stuff to prevent tampering ...
Bottom line is the developers are best placed and can do it far better than 3rd party software which also relies on client, server side software and admins.
I've been working in IT for years and developed and designed all sorts of stuff but what I fail to understand is why do game studios rely on 3rd party cheat detection systems .... no money in it is my guess.
Surely the best way to catch cheats is to add it directly into the games code base ... if you detect an anonomly disable the users key from MP access.
There must be loads of ways the in game developers can determine if a game is hacked ... hec they can run there own programs to monitor game files, take in game images and analyse directly on the clients pc, gee they can even add in encyption on all sorts of stuff to prevent tampering ...
Bottom line is the developers are best placed and can do it far better than 3rd party software which also relies on client, server side software and admins.
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cause the wheel do work for paid hacks 99 percent of the time !
pb does catch alot of people but the amount who go unnoticed is a joke.
if you google hack sites for fps gaming for eg youll find 1000s of sites with undetectable hacks. even if you get caught alot of these sites will give you a free key for getting caught so back on they go to continue hacking !
lock things down make it basuc and no or hardly any changes can be made and be tough .
hopefully tripwire can help stop it at least in there games cause cod and bf cant be bothered. would be very refreshing indeed to see it in practice.
also one thing ive noticed through many years of gaming is one key factor hacks cant stop is latency issues ! all hacks cause ping spikes ! why no one has worked on this is beyond me.
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