Really, who and how many do the choosing?
I answered that already or did you not read it?
Don't get snotty with me, its unbecoming of you... The quality servers with fast working redirects are what this is all about. After all, they already allow mappers to release their work into the community thus allowing all players wanting to play custom maps to enjoy their work. Or, hadn't you noticed in your bellicose pursuit of power?
Don't try your bully boy tactics with me mike they don't work here.
You plainly do not grasp the concept of what has been repeatedly explained by several other posters apart from myself.
This is not a fight for freedom for the rights of oppressed RO2 mappers and stop trying to mislead people into believing it is.
No one is going to prevent mappers making maps or releasing maps or servers running whatever maps they want.
That is plainly a fallacy. Patently untrue - A figment of someone's imagination. The piss poor and highly intrusive SWS performance, inexperienced admins, poor GSP's and garbage redirects have done more to cause users to shy away because of all the lousy experiences they've suffered. That is the TRUTH!
There you go again trying to mislead people.
You have turned a simple statement about how popular winterwald is now that its an official stock map, into a question about servers and redirects.
This has nothing to do with server quality or redirects.
What on earth do you keep bringing it up for, it has no bearing on getting custom maps into an official patch.
You left one other result out.... Play what WE want you to play and play the map the way we want you to play it. After all, the person(s) deciding which maps get "released" do so with dictatorial powers.
I have left nothing out because no one is going to prevent you from playing whatever you like or anyone else for that matter.
Whether maps would be released as part of patch is an issue for each mapper.
If a mapper did not wish to submit a map then there would be no difference to what they have right this minute.
So how are they, you or anyone else being dictated too.
This is about choice and allowing our talented mappers an opportunity to get their work released into the game.
The way it is now, we play the maps as the mappers DESIGNED them to play NOT as some pompous bureaucrat(s) decide it should play.
Yet more assumption and misinformation.
Who said anything will be changed in a mappers design?
There you go again, getting snotty, actually, you KNOW I am reading each and every word.....
There you go again trying to bully people.
Your repeated posts about server quality, redirects and the rights of mappers show a complete failure to grasp the concept of what has been proposed.
Truth be known again..."DON'T FIX WHAT AIN'T BROKEN!" & "TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE SOUP!!" Are quite appropriate here. Of course I already said that and you chose to talk down to me and mock my words. That's all good as it proves you have no factual, concrete fail-safe answer.
Truth be known you keep scaremongering and misinforming people with topics that have no relevance to the proposal as we can see from you sentence below.
And then we see the users confronted with those servers choosing not to run the "modified" or should I say, "modifried" maps. Thus the advent of numerous versions of a map in circulation.
If I want to run a newly released community map that is patched into the game that is my choice and if I decide to run version B3 of that map on my server instead of B5 or the patched version surely thats my choice as well.
These problems will not disappear because of this proposal, because choice will always be there.
Whatever butch...... whatever.... When will we all know the real reasons for all this hullabaloo over this senseless and useless layer of bureaucracy. Apparently, EGO and POWER over the MAPPERS & ADMINS and especially SERVER CONTENT are the obnoxiously obvious reasons cloaked in smoke and mirrors about "everything will be wonderful". Its really nothing but a control freak scheme.
Lol..Yet again more misinformation..There is no conspiracy to overthrow the rights of mappers to map.
There is no desire by me or anyone else to subvert the rights of server admins to run their servers as they see fit or to corrupt their redirects so that they will no longer be faster than a speeding bullet.
The only thing I find freakish is your complete failure to undestand a very simple concept posted by Thor in his proposal.
You have no idea how many users, of those who are left, (6500 down to less than 1800 avg. in less than four weeks) see right through this BS. This nonsensical effort is a telltale sign of futile thinking in the face of a failing platform. You of all people, like myself and a few others here, have seen this before at least twice. Trouble is, I do not have a short memory.
You are welcome to your pessimistic views.
Just don't ask or expect others to share them.
Yes I have seen the player count drop and rise again..It rises after new official content is added usually..
Hence Thors proposal to help TWI add even more.
@ All
We WILL wind up with multiple versions of maps. There is no talking around that FACT.
Official content will reduce this but why would anyone want to prevent any server admin running whatever version of a map he personally preferred on their server.
Constant meddling in the creation of maps is courting disaster. Just look at what happened with Winterwald.... when it was first released everyone loved it. It was a challenge, an exciting challenge. EVERYONE Loved it!! ...Now, its a bore. (truth)
Again I have to say where has anyone stated that map design would be changed.
Personally you may find Winterwald a bore but many others do not so its an opinion and only the truth as you see it.
I say "HANDS OFF!!" What we have now works and works well!
Yes it works but it does not allow the whole community to enjoy some very very good content.
More stock content whether it be supplied by TWI or the community will allow a great many more players to enjoy the talent and varity that our mappers have to offer in their work.
