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Incorrect. Time for semantics. It is a German unit that fought for the Greater German Empire. "Nazi Germany" is a modern naming convention used to distinguish the aforementioned nation from previous instances of itself. The argument that Germans fighting for the Greater German Empire were Nazis in comparison to Russians fighting for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is invalid.

Military Organizations share the same demonym as their countries. The soldiers of the Soviet Union were Soviet (not, say Bolshevik) and the soldiers of the Greater German Reich were German (not National Socialist).



* Oh, that's rich.



I hate every, single, one of you.

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Save for the fact that the tens of thousands of young volunteers legitimately believed in the threat of Russian Bolshevism. Nations have been forming foreign volunteer units since Roman times (and before). I know it's so difficult to imagine the vile, villainous, hyper-aggressive Nazi regime doing the same things that Civilized Nations did and do (England and the King's German Legion, Napoleon's W
 
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Forgive me, Father, for second-guessing His ways, but how can He, who is our Lord and Savior, tolerate Nazis or even just those who share their imperialistic goals and serve them in war but allegedly don't share more inconvenient political notions in this shrine to His greatness?

Why does He not help dispose of them, like he did 70 years prior when last he demonstrated his wondrous powers?

Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachthani!
:IS2:, :IS2:, why have You forsaken me?
 
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Wehrmacht unit, SS unit, Nazi unit, Aryan unit, all the same, and all their members are the same. u mad?

Unless I am very much taking your quote out of context, yes it makes me mad, for you to sit there and say that... Some people actually have relatives that fought for their country with no other choice, and to sit there and call them all Nazi's is pure bs!
 
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Unless I am very much taking your quote out of context, yes it makes me mad, for you to sit there and say that... Some people actually have relatives that fought for their country with no other choice, and to sit there and call them all Nazi's is pure bs!

He is not calling Nazis all of those who fought with no choice.

He is however calling Nazis to those who join a "SS unit" to roleplay them in a videogame and try to find real life justifications for it like: "We had relatives there who had no choice!"

You are much more history buffs than I am, but AFAIK, the SS was voluntary, and if it wasn't, then I don't know you, but If a regime "forced" my relatives to endure such BS, I wouldn't be proud of wearing those uniforms.
 
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He is not calling Nazis all of those who fought with no choice.

He is however calling Nazis to those who join a "SS unit" to roleplay them in a videogame and try to find real life justifications for it like: "We had relatives there who had no choice!"

You are much more history buffs than I am, but AFAIK, the SS was voluntary, and if it wasn't, then I don't know you, but If a regime "forced" my relatives to endure such BS, I wouldn't be proud of wearing those uniforms.

Fedorov,

While I understand what you are saying, you must also understand that an individual can be proud of the uniform he wore because he did what he thought without a doubt was right. He never did anything that was against his honor.

For instance the Reichswehr was the standing army for Germany between the wars. Many of these men were professional soldiers who swore to the constitution of Germany at the time. When Hitler took control they had no choice but to swear allegiance to Hitler. Others were drafted in 1939 and were practically at the front lines for the entire war.

They served as any soldier did, and that was fight for your friends and buddies. While others dishonored the uniform with acts of horror, others never went down that path and served honorable and when they see that uniform they dont think "Oh right, its a "nazi" uniform that represents the deaths of millions of innocent people"... It usual reminds them of the camaraderie, sacrifice, and sheer madness of it all, and that they survived it and can say without a doubt that they served with distinction and never dishonored the uniform and tradition of the German military, unlike the Nazi's who wanted to destroy the symbol of German military tradition.

War isn't black and white like so many think. It isn't hollywood bologna. If you're going to say that all the Germans in the military during ww2 were evil Nazis then go ahead and say that all Russians are Bolshevist murdering dogs.
 
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well to the SS Fanboys......you are portraying SS units....the SS were not "regular German soldiers" fighting to "preserve Germany".....see Fedorov's post

the SS was voluntary

back on topic,

only those who volunteer for the service of the holy :IS2: will receive complete and eternal enlightenment
 
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Stickied threads are usually ignored threads.
Agreed but we shall never forget the wonderful things the mighty and glorious :IS2: has done for our world. This thread shall live on as long as its rear firing machine gun continues to purify heresies and trakor lovers everywhere.
 
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