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French noobs (no offence French people)

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I have only read the title.
I am from Poland and I see a ****LOAD of noobs from Poland. A disastrous torrent of morons comes Russia as well. I have only met 2 good Russian players. I see noobs from UK, NL, Germany, Spain, Portugal.... and rest of the world.

French? XJ5, BLOOD SCOURGE, GRIPPY - man, these guys are real beasts at KF. If I were to choose You or them, then I wanna be French from now on.

Noobs, newbies and less skilled are everywhere. Don't mock French in general, seriously, please?
 
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I have only read the title.
I realised. :rolleyes:
I have only read the title.
I am from Poland and I see a ****LOAD of noobs from Poland.
I am from Poland too and I do agree with you, although not noobs are the thing I can see among Polish people being the biggest pain, but players who go like "stop cursing or ban" or "I am so pro omgwtf" then die, or when you play as medic with crossbow they are mad at you for "not sticking to your perk" and pretty much gameplay gets stiff and boring.
Noobs, newbies and less skilled are everywhere. Don't mock French in general, seriously, please.
Well, as you said, you read only the title, so I am not surprised you said that. Read before you post :IS2:
 
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keep in mind one thing - i was nub too, You were too, many good players were nubs too

Eh, I think there's a difference between being a noob and a newb.

Everyone had a point at which they weren't any good at playing KF or FPSs. I'd argue that not everyone had a point at which they would insult other players out of ignorance, or deliberately worked to kill their team out of spite.
 
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i read the whole post, slowly, what i wrote applies... still
keep in mind one thing - i was nub too, You were too, many good players were nubs too
and finally - You were just unlucky that day, and that's it
have fun anyway
The thing is not about if they were noobs or not. That's totally different thing to be a noob who wants to learn how to play, and to be a total jerk griefers who act childish and insult others for being better than they are. As I said - I don't mind nationality, I mind the behavior, I mind the way they acted like, and I am pretty sure it's not just that they are "nub", it's that they are harsh right-where-spine-ends-holes.

Also, it's not just that I am unlucky which is the important thing here, but the fact such players who ACT like this are making KF a joke. What if someone just bought KF, joined the server instead of me, and got treated the same way? Most likely, different person in the same situation would not even play this long with them - would ragequit and very likely thing is they'd not play KF for very long time, then come back and see if they got right feeling about KF and most likely see it from the brighter way.

Of course, that is true that NOT all players are like that, and that it's not a huge deal, YET something like that NEVER should have taken place, like griefing at FF servers, like Vote-kicking on-sight, like mic-spamming. That makes KF not so enjoyable as it could be. I sometimes rather play with lvl 0s and explain to them how to play, give them money and guns, help them lvl up, instead of play with some teams like the French one. Anytime I am in game with such players, I am thinking: why does KF community have them? Do other communities have as many of them? What does KF have to atract those? For example Trader blockers, what atracts them is lack of Anit-Blocker mut. For some reason though not every server runs Anti-Blocker, and that is one of reasons and maybe the only reason why they exist. So now back to my point - what atract THIS kind of people I just played with? How to get rid of them? Should we get rid of them? Sure, everyone was a noob, but not everyone behave like *insert insult here*.

Eh, I think there's a difference between being a noob and a newb.

Everyone had a point at which they weren't any good at playing KF or FPSs. I'd argue that not everyone had a point at which they would insult other players out of ignorance, or deliberately worked to kill their team out of spite.
There is a major difference between noob and newb.

Noob = Someone who plays totally dumb, no matter how much he played, how much experienced, he'll never learn from mistakes. They, very often, play the game wrong way, for example instead of helping team in a co-op game they do everything for the team to loose, doesn't listen to tips from others and behaves like an *insert insult here*.
Newb = A newcommer, "Newbie", someone who still learns the rules and tries to come along. Better than a noob in many ways - Newb can learn from mistakes unlike noob, mostly after playing longer can be a good player unlike a noob. Also, newbs, unlike noobs, don't grief intentionally (most likely at least).
 
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Yes, You have a point, I apologize to those I called nubs/noobs, but You (me too) were all newbies to this game

Beniox
Play with friends man, or avoid childish players, in end You can always play solo.
People are mean. People just want to shoot stuff, they don’t know the game, they don’t care, they rage bigs, waste ammo, go solo, they do all they crazy nonsense stupid stuff.
I don’t play on public servers as often as I used to. I do pop in one of them every now and then, but very often I see people play quite risky game. There are jerks, but what will You do?

My story now:
2 ago I played a fun hard game solo on biohazard - on wave 4 a guy joined, next wave another joins? AA spam guys, this is only hard. They were scared, but they listened. They were newbies, but they listened. We won. Next map, I told them what to do - they listened, long story short - we won easily. Next map - same 2 guys and me, and then in the middle of the game 2 new guys join - they all listened. Great game. Don’t fret! It is hard only. On wave 7 a guy named Bocor joins, and this is best thing I have ever seen - simple but amazing, the guy kept supporting us as zerk - he would kite stuff outside, escort any late joiner, give dosh, escort late joiner, kite bigs away so we make it to trader. It sounds trivial, but I have never seen someone to be such a good soul with such will to help newbies (the guy turned out to be amazingly skilled player - a real professional - skilled with manners).

Point? I was lucky that day - out of last 15 days, this was the only day I had fun on hard game mode. on the contrary You were unlucky.
Real life is a *****, and so is life in the game.
 
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Spoiler!

I understand your point man and you know, you still missed the point a bit.
There are jerks, yes. But there are things which make them be jerks and there are things which atract them to be jerks. Like lack of Anti-blocker adds them courage to block trader. You get the point?
Now, what makes them call other players "noobs" while they die and what makes them grief like that? That is what I want to get answers for, maybe solution as well. Playing solo or with friends is not quite what I like. I know it sounds stupid, but I love playing with low lvl players and support them, as you said before, you loved that zerker who supported team. That is exactly what I love doing as well as that zerker. But once for a while I want to play my favourite maps just to relax a bit, and I find only 1 game with a ping which is acceptable, and it turns out that it's infested by imbeciles who love to destroy the fun. Why I stayed there? Mostly to show them how miserable they are. But then, stupid never knows about own stupidity. Even if you shove them knowledge to their tiny brain, it'll refuse to take it and will turn against you. And that is the lesson I got from the day. So, why did I not just quit?
Basically, they destroyed my mood, so to get my good mood back I had to revenge, and they were so miserable with their attempts to be even more evil, they acted like a mouse trapped in cage insulting the one who has power over it and thinking that it can escape anytime and strike. What made it even more fun to me was that I could share experience with others, and maybe find solution against such people and make the KF better (I know I know, I just keep dreaming and I want to be a hero, yada yada, I am not a hero, that's my duty and so on blah blah).

Now, back to the point - is there any solution OTHER than playing solo or with friends? Is there any solution which makes playing with random players more enjoyable? Is there a way to keep those people like those assholes away from the servers? (Just don't suggest making own one, in KF it's not that easy, I tried).

EDIT: Also, I'd love to point out KF is CO-OP, so playing SOLO doesn't make it as enjoyable.
 
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There is a major difference between noob and newb.

Noob = Someone who plays totally dumb, no matter how much he played, how much experienced, he'll never learn from mistakes. They, very often, play the game wrong way, for example instead of helping team in a co-op game they do everything for the team to loose, doesn't listen to tips from others and behaves like an *insert insult here*.
Newb = A newcommer, "Newbie", someone who still learns the rules and tries to come along. Better than a noob in many ways - Newb can learn from mistakes unlike noob, mostly after playing longer can be a good player unlike a noob. Also, newbs, unlike noobs, don't grief intentionally (most likely at least).
Yes, there is. You are correct. I apologize. Lesson learned.

I understand your point man and you know, you still missed the point a bit.
There are jerks, yes. But there are things which make them be jerks and there are things which atract them to be jerks. Like lack of Anti-blocker adds them courage to block trader. You get the point?

I do. They are jerks, because they have an excellent opportunity. Some people are spiteful by nature.

Now, what makes them call other players "noobs" while they die and what makes them grief like that? That is what I want to get answers for, maybe solution as well.

RAGE. They died, You didn't.

I know it sounds stupid, but I love playing with low lvl players and support them.

It does not sound stupid to me. It is a fantastic feeling when You lead scared guys to victory - I LOVE IT (as long as they listen haha).

Why I stayed there? Mostly to show them how miserable they are. But then, stupid never knows about own stupidity. Even if you shove them knowledge to their tiny brain, it'll refuse to take it and will turn against you. And that is the lesson I got from the day. So, why did I not just quit?
Basically, they destroyed my mood, so to get my good mood back I had to revenge, and they were so miserable with their attempts to be even more evil, they acted like a mouse trapped in cage insulting the one who has power over it and thinking that it can escape anytime and strike. What made it even more fun to me was that I could share experience with others, and maybe find solution against such people and make the KF better (I know I know, I just keep dreaming and I want to be a hero, yada yada, I am not a hero, that's my duty and so on blah blah).
No point in staying. You will achieve nothing that way. They had already refused to be helped.

Now, back to the point - is there any solution OTHER than playing solo or with friends? Is there any solution which makes playing with random players more enjoyable? Is there a way to keep those people like those assholes away from the servers? (Just don't suggest making own one, in KF it's not that easy, I tried).
You can only count on luck. You can vote kick. You cannot make them listen, You can only try to help them. Some will listen. Some will not e.g. "Frack off, I don't care what you say, i'm gonna shoot zombies."

It is not possible to travel faster than light.
 
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I am in Australia and i prefer to play on asian servers SG or JP, reason is because there are practically no griefers, name callers or asshats. Sometimes i find myself with a team full of newbs and we wipe on wave 8/9, but hey i'm good with that since rarely does anyone spit the dummy and in the scenario that they do they tend to face a majority kick vote pretty much instantly.

An example was a match where 2 fp are approaching from one side on mountain pass at the usual camping spot, i backpeddle back to main group, the player next to me a hero support decides to take em on, he goes down (go figures), group kills fp's, the support then decides to rages at me for not helping him kill the fp's, other players tell him to shut it, he does. Come next wave, he dies to early fp, he rages at fp. As we're progressing thru the wave I decide to switch to bullpup to train hip headshots while circle strafing a bunch of zed, outta no where the dead support decides to mock me for not being able to aim...next thing i know 3 vote kicks were placed instantly against him without me doing anything. I was pretty much the last person to initiate the vote kick.
 
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I realised. :rolleyes:
Well, as you said, you read only the title, so I am not surprised you said that. Read before you post :IS2:

I've read it, and the posts below, and you are pointing clearly at French people in your post.

As for their behaviour ingame, that was quite low, but maybe they were just 5 people knowing eachother and playing for fun. The way you acted in response is childish and IMHO you should have left the server instead of acting like you did.

Also, as they were low levels, maybe they need to learn the game tactics by making mistakes, dying from bad organnization for example. Having someone with a high level coming in the game and shouting orders all the time may be a bit irritating for people who just want to have fun.

And just because i'm French, that doesn't mean that I act irrational or completely erratic. You need to make the distinction between a good and a bad gamer, but generally the country they're from doesn't matter, if you're stupid, you're stupid ;).
 
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I agree on that except from KF stuff coming this year bringing good players back. If anything - it'll bring more newcomers, lvl 0s to HoE servers and such like it was during Christmas time. Fear the day of lvl 0s, that'd be when all good players most likely will stop playing for a bit to wait for when there are less "newbs".
Yes, I skip these events for the same reason. Every damn sui/hoe server is full with 0-1lvl noobs. I just solo my achvs for the current event and dont play till the end.

EDIT: If TWI add some level-difficulty restriction, this is going to be the biggest invention in TWI history.
 
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Why only French.....
If you read first post you'd know.
This post is just a shame
No, those exact 5 French people are shame.

EDIT: Ah yes, ToNiO, you are French, no wonder you protect them, then. That's funny how only French people defend them (and one Polish), awhile everyone else here simply agrees that it is wrong what they did.

Also, thanks guys for what you wrote, I can finally see what TWI might have done wrong, or the circumstances which could have made it go that way.
I think the main reason is because story maps, if you die in middle of wave, are pretty annoying when you have to wait for spawn as it takes long time. That might have caused their rage.

Also I'd love to repeat - NO, I do not rage at all French people, just those 5 asshats. Someone tell me how to edit title so people won't go "I just read title and I dislike all this thread".
 
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Better question : What does killing floor require more, Skill or Teamwork.

I see allot of posts like "oh yeah best player ever! Super powers! Awsome, lets kiss his ***!" .... but I like to see the same player in a good game of AVP2 or CounterStrike. They usually suck at competitive games imo.

Killing floor doesnt require skill imo, just a good sense of teamwork. The n00bs of KF are usually the ones that never played a good horde game, or come straight from playing DM/TDM games like CounterStrike or COD. (easy recognised as they always ragequit lol) :)
 
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The n00bs of KF are usually the ones that never played a good horde game, or come straight from playing DM/TDM games like CounterStrike or COD. (easy recognised as they always ragequit lol) :)
The ragequit is really some kind of trademark of those CS/COD players. They join, die quick, ragequit. But to be honest those types of people are not that bad - ragequit is fine, as they trouble no more, don't call others noobs and so on. The real problem is players who behave aggresive towards others and who are making the game plain flame war. So I disagree on what you just said - that those people are worst, they're not. I don't mind people who wander off from team and die then ragequit or who are taking all kills alone, who are "pro" or whatever they say. I just mind people who act exactly like those French people. Being mad because of loosing is acceptable, I'd forgive that if he just said "damn I died I hate you because you survived" or something like that, but "You're a noob" spam is not acceptable.
 
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