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  • Gunslinger Adjustment

    Just a simple idea that any singular pistol that doesnt directly belong to the Gunslinger should be removed from it. This would leave only the dual weapons and the rifle. This small change would seriously declutter the Gunslinger shop.

    Edit: Post 12 by Aze is a wonderful solution.
    Last edited by RuneVivi; 10-14-2018, 07:00 PM. Reason: See post 12

  • #2
    I disagree. I love running with some single pistols and you do get the perk bonus from them.

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    • #3
      Tear out gameplay features plenty of people love, just so RuneVivi doesn't have to see and occasionally scroll past a few buttons in the shop that RuneVivi doesn't personally use? Wow, what a suggestion.
      If you want a personalized list of your favorites, there's the favorites menu in the shop, try using that. Or since it's a pretty half baked feature, suggest how to make it worthwhile.
      Don't take my rack em up medpistol.
      Last edited by Azukki; 10-11-2018, 09:15 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Azukki View Post
        Don't take my rack em up medpistol.
        <3 the rack em up med pistol.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bluntman420 View Post
          I disagree. I love running with some single pistols and you do get the perk bonus from them.
          It wasn't about you not getting bonuses, it's just abit messed up that they can use basically every handgun and then also crossperk a rifle, and that's before duals.

          The only ones they should get benefits for are their own pistols and the dual versions of pistols. I'd welcome dual 101s and demo pistols (for the 101s just set aiming style to the default from the options).

          I'm excluding the rifle because it doesn't fit into the argument. I have no preference in its inclusion as a cross perk.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RuneVivi View Post

            It wasn't about you not getting bonuses, it's just abit messed up that they can use basically every handgun and then also crossperk a rifle, and that's before duals.

            The only ones they should get benefits for are their own pistols and the dual versions of pistols. I'd welcome dual 101s and demo pistols (for the 101s just set aiming style to the default from the options).

            I'm excluding the rifle because it doesn't fit into the argument. I have no preference in its inclusion as a cross perk.
            And it's still great that you have the option to use just one pistol rather than dual option. That's one of the things that makes the gunslinger such an awesome class. There is so much diversity in the game play. The single pistols are all really good and I love using them. Taking away that option is.....just silly and would hurt the class.

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            • #7
              You know that you can dislike/not care about a feature and still let people enjoy it right?

              I'm not too keen on cross-perked pistols, but I simply...pick something else??

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aleflippy View Post
                You know that you can dislike/not care about a feature and still let people enjoy it right?

                I'm not too keen on cross-perked pistols, but I simply...pick something else??
                I find it rather funny that you all seem to think i hate a class just because my opinion goes against the norm.

                Edit:

                In fact it's quite the opposite. I would like to see the class expanded. Unfortunately it's in such disarray because it's identity is muddied by being able to take nearly every role.

                In short, you want new weapons? Unfortunately you need to lose some to get new ones that don't just fill the same roles.
                Last edited by RuneVivi; 10-12-2018, 08:10 AM. Reason: Felt like elaborating

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                • #9
                  Keep it civil.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RuneVivi View Post
                    "I would like to see the class expanded. Unfortunately it's in such disarray because it's identity is muddied by being able to take nearly every role."
                    So you say the identity of the handgun guy has been muddied up by him having more handguns.
                    Originally posted by RuneVivi View Post
                    I'm excluding the rifle because it doesn't fit into the argument.
                    But the one (singular) rifle is irrelevant to this. If there are any other rifles you didn't care to notice, presumably they would also be irrelevant, too?


                    Originally posted by RuneVivi View Post
                    In short, you want new weapons? Unfortunately you need to lose some to get new ones that don't just fill the same roles.
                    I do want new weapons. New weapons that make a whole new role are great. New weapons that are only somewhat different from existing weapons, providing alternate options within an existing role, can be good too.
                    I don't want to want replacements of good features which have been needlessly removed.
                    You apparently want the healing handgun removed from the handgun guy, the single fire handgun removed from the handgun guy, and the explosive handgun removed from the handgun guy, so that in a few years, if TWI happens to want to make a healing handgun for the handgun guy, a single fire handgun for the handgun guy, and an explosive handgun for the handgun guy, the roles for these will be "new"?

                    Originally posted by RuneVivi View Post
                    It wasn't about you not getting bonuses
                    So despite your other reasons being about roles and functions, gameplay actually doesn't matter for this suggestion? What's important is that the shopping list for gunslinger needs to only show some of the weapons applicable to gunslinger, instead of all of them, so that we can all conveniently only see the things Runevivi likes?
                    Again, if you only want to see what you like, you should use the personalizable favorites tab in the shop. Or suggest how that feature could be improved to be worthwhile.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Azukki View Post
                      Lots of nonsense just because I don't agree and would rather cut down a perceived opponent than try to see beyond my box.
                      Alright well, it's clear you won't agree with me and I have no reason to argue with you. Feel free to move on.

                      To those open minded enough to attempt to see outside of the box: Don't view it as a nerf but instead as an opportunity to develop a more clear role.

                      As it stands the Gunslinger and the Survivalist kinda fill the exact same role, albeit the Survivalist has it really confused and the Gunslinger has it really strong.To further distinguish these roles and style them, then we have to be willing to sacrifice abit here and there between the two. Also this WAS started simply to clear up the shop, but everyone wants to drag other things into account and as such I am reciprocating.

                      Now I don't intend to use this as a podium to fix both classes, and I'm not trying to tell TWI to ruin your perfect class. I just believe that something needs to be done so that the class can continue to grow instead of becoming more muddied.

                      Feel free to disagree, but I'm not a petulant child who will sit here and argue with you. I welcome opinion and have no interest in fighting with you over text on a screen. ~ Not directed at anyone, just stating that I do not intend to argue back and forth.
                      Last edited by RuneVivi; 10-12-2018, 09:02 PM. Reason: thoughts and typos

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                      • #12
                        If one of the main issues about this is the visual clutter in the trader pod; Have the single and dual version purchases be buttons on the same row, side by side, rather than single vs dual versions being 2 seperate rows of weapons.
                        My KF2 suggestions:
                        http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...ad.php?t=54830

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Aze View Post
                          If one of the main issues about this is the visual clutter in the trader pod; Have the single and dual version purchases be buttons on the same row, side by side, rather than single vs dual versions being 2 seperate rows of weapons.
                          This is a beautiful idea and would completely fix my true complaint.

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                          • #14
                            Gunslinger is all about handguns. Many of the handguns in its class belong to it, with a few outliers like the flare guns and the medic pistol. There's also the centerfire, which can work as a 3rd magnum in cases where you want a strong weapon to compliment your pistols. As such, there's only a few weapons crossperked with gunslinger, and removing them wouldn't make too much of a difference.

                            However, this idea wouldn't work out because crossperked weapons are a core gameplay function and making the gunslinger the only perk without it would feel like restricting the class to act a certain way when it can do more. When you have weapons like the flare guns and centerfire, it gives the gunslinger more power as those weapons can use the GS perk skills to great effect. The medic pistol is also better on the GS since it gains the damage bonus and can give unlimited heals during zed time if you're using whirlwind of lead.

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