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Privay Policy Update

We’ve updated the Tripwire Privacy Notice under our Policies to be clearer about our use of customer information to come in line with the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) rules that come into force today (25th May 2018). The following are highlights of our changes:

We’ve incorporated the relevant concepts from the GDPR including joining the EU and Swiss Privacy Shield framework. We’ve added explanations for why and how Tripwire processes customer data and the types of data that we process, as well as information about your data protection rights.

For more information about our privacy practices, please review the new Privacy Policy found here:
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The following is a list of some things that MAY be considered "offensive" by the moderators and the team. This is NOT an exclusive list and it does depend very much on context.

Crossing the line into "offensive" territory is likely to get you asked to change your name, sig or avatar or to withdraw/delete posts. This will be done politely by the moderators. If you refuse to comply further action WILL be taken once started, ultimately leading to banning from the forums.

A key point: please attempt to use your brains. What is mild humour to you may well be deeply offensive to others. While we have no intention of acting as politically-correct "thought police", we are on the lookout for those things that can cause offense and, in some cases, are actually still illegal in some jurisdictions.
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So people get the idea, some examples that would be considered offensive, numbered as above:
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  2. "NKVD Blocking Detachment", "Einsatzgruppen"
  3. This one should be pretty obvious...
  4. So should this - and it includes calling all Germans "Nazis" and all Soviets/Russians "Commies". It got boring 50 years ago, so stop it.
  5. Use of swastikas, fasces, SS-runes and so on for the Axis.
  6. There is actually very little overt symbolism from the Stalinist era; the hammer-and-sickle isn't offensive per se.

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The Weapon Side-Grade System

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  • The Weapon Side-Grade System

    I think I was one of the first people pushing for a weapon side-grade system in Early Access. This is however not at all what I had in mind, however, I remain optimistic.

    So far I've haven't been able to figure out where in the Trader menu these upgrades are supposed to be (I think mine maybe glitched)... but from what I've read they are just damage buffs that add weight without changing the physical appearance of the weapons. But to accommodate for their existence nerfs have happened across the board... making all Tier 4s into Tier 3s with the side-grade buffs putting them back up to their original power.

    Here's my take on understanding it:
    *This is the groundwork for a much more comprehensive system.
    *This allows players to play with a weapon that feels good & invest in it to bring it to a Tier 4/5 quality.
    *This also allows players to buy their favored weapon earlier & perhaps is an attempt to balance the in-game economy & diversify the character "build" over the long game.

    What I'd like to see happen:
    *I'd like to see more "side-grades" but they should be realistic & have, in most cases, a physical appearance on the weapon. (I understand this is the Beta & therefore I'm of course speaking regarding the future of this system)
    * That fixed weapons & limited upgrades & capacity also exist. ie: That every upgrade is not applicable for every gun.

    Some upgrade options:
    *Scope types
    *Underslung attachments
    *Extended mags
    *Speed loaders
    * Fore grips
    *Extended barrels
    *Muzzle dampeners
    *Ammo types

    In closing, I think the system has a lot of potential but it is being implemented a bit prematurely that many only see it as a nerf or complication. I'm fine if it continues after the beta but it needs depth & refinement.

    I feel like without a physical change in the weapon's appearance it also breaks the immersion... as all the guns' power characteristics become negligible. (This idea was also pertinent in the "Rioter" reskin- when we as players ask, "Why can he survive 7-10 headshots?!" - you all said, "-BAM- *new design* -while he's wearing a titanium football gear! Duh!")

    This reminds me a bit of the Zed Weaknesses update... in fact it might he nice to see these two ideas come out in a single reworked & refined update alone.

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    It's not quite like the zed weaknesses update; both of them had a lot of people feeling very dramatic and threatening to leave, but resistances did actually make the game pretty distinctly and unavoidably awkward to play, while upgrades are -basically- optional.


    • #3
      Originally posted by Scrublord;ne2319589
      It's not quite like the zed weaknesses update; both of them had a lot of people feeling very dramatic and threatening to leave, but resistances did actually make the game pretty distinctly and unavoidably awkward to play, while upgrades are -basically- optional.
      Yes, but the comparison was more about that the system wasn't fundamentally a bad idea just poorly or partially implemented causing a surge of discontent. Lots of people find the side-grade system upsetting because it costs more overall, gun-looter trolling is on the rise, & there is no visual improvement or rationality other than more weight=more damage. That & with 'reload cancelling' & 'quick impact parry' getting axed the system is taking some hard ridicule.

      I found the rejection of the zed weakness idea similar because I believe it too is a system that had a lot of potential but fell flat because people failed to understand it or see how it could improve. If it had been better implemented with visual cues, in-game context/tips, & other such affects it probably would have went over better. That's also why I brought up the Rioter; it was just ludicrous before - you could demolish his head to a bloody skull & he'd still be rallying the horde- now at least we see that he has armor on his upper body.

      Speaking of awkward gameplay, until I can find the right file to wipe & redownload- I'm stuck without the possibility of weapon upgrades. I'm nerfed across the board! :P

      Also the new EDARS are kind if cool because they don't need their heads... and their weak points seem to be their joints.


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        Weapon attachments are fine, except for flashlights. Everyone has a flashlight pinned to their body, and it was annoying how in KF1 you had to have a certain weapon out just to use the light. It would also give a good reason as to why weapon weight increases when you upgrade.