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What We Are Up To - Getting Objective About The Situation

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Copycat View Post
    Ruining the Freezethrower's ability to freeze with alt. fire will not make me use the Killerwatt more, it will only make me play Survivalist less. Survivalist is an already weak perk, removing its perk-specific weapon's ability to quickly freeze a big Zed is only going to make the perk even weaker. The goal should be to make the perk viable for Hell on Earth, not to make it so useless that it cannot even carry a weak team to the next wave on Suicidal difficulty.
    I agree with you to the extent that we shouldn't be taking away from the Survivalist as much as we are, but instead should be trying to figure out what purpose the survivalist would be best suited for considering the options. The jack of all trades gimmick evidently doesn't cut it for HoE since the individual abilities of any single Survivalist could be balanced between multiple teammates to a much greater effect, making cooperation much more viable and reasonable than relying on the perk itself. I don't know how most people make use of Survivalist honestly since there's a lot of variety between personal arsenals and regular arsenals placed upon that perk, and I feel like the idea of a "scientist / engineer" perk could probably be much more interesting than a universally neutral one.

    Maybe Survivalist could serve as like a second-hand medic -- instead of just healing people, they could serve as the medic's righthand man by holding off the zeds with special tactics when healing needs to be dealt amongst injured teammates. Electrical weapons would make sense for this, since stun capabilities would likely be integrated into that category. Essentially this could serve as a handling tactic for keeping the horde stable when enemies are rushing in mass amounts from every which way, so that the team doesn't get overwhelmed entirely and an escape route could potentially be established with some help from the Survivalist.

    Idk, just a dumb idea lol. Main point is just that I don't think Survivalist can fit to anyone's satisfaction with what they have going rn. And I still think the Killerwatt is a bit too op.


    • #17
      I really like those changes to C4! It's one of my most-used weapons in KF2, and one of my favorites.
      I just hope the damage hasn't been nerfed.
      System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, GeForce RTX 2060 FE 6GB, Core i9-9900K, ASUS TUF Z390-PRO GAMING, G.Skill TridentZ 32GB DDR4 3200, Samsung 970 PRO 1TB


      • #18
        Originally posted by Copycat View Post
        Ruining the Freezethrower's ability to freeze with alt. fire will not make me use the Killerwatt more, it will only make me play Survivalist less. Survivalist is an already weak perk, removing its perk-specific weapon's ability to quickly freeze a big Zed is only going to make the perk even weaker. The goal should be to make the perk viable for Hell on Earth, not to make it so useless that it cannot even carry a weak team to the next wave on Suicidal difficulty.
        I'm not seeing the issue here - the alt fire has a lot of bonuses being added to it, so naturally something must be taken away to stop it from being OP. Plus you can still freeze big zeds with the regular fire, just not as quickly. As always though, we need to wait and see just how this plays out in-game.


        • #19
          Originally posted by flashn00b View Post
          Will Santa's Workshop in its current implementation be listed as an Objective Mode map? I feel like we could use the Endless version of the Workshop in the regular Survival mode.
          Workshop will remain a Survival map for now, but it may change in future updates.
          Pretty, what do we blow up first? - Myn Donos


          • #20
            Originally posted by Spych0pat View Post
            Are you going to do something about the players you banned for exploiting the vault crate glitch ?
            Players were banned for this?


            • #21
              I have a "REIGN: Total Body Energy" sitting in the fridge, waiting for this coming beta to be cracked open.

              Also, KFO_TheDescent seems like it would make a good objective map - especially since it used the same "comic book" format for advertising.


              • #22
                I think we need even smaller maps! *immediately bludgened to death by KF players


                • #23
                  Heads up, it looks like we won't be able to release a beta this week.
                  Pretty, what do we blow up first? - Myn Donos


                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Yoshiro View Post
                    Heads up, it looks like we won't be able to release a beta this week.
                    oh good, means i won't miss the launch while being at a 4 day shift for 12 hours each day this week
                    ETA on when it might drop next week?


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Yoshiro View Post
                      Heads up, it looks like we won't be able to release a beta this week.
                      Aw shucks, it would have been nice to play for a couple hours before starting my exam session.

                      Oh well... Guess I'll have to study less!


                      • #26
                        I'm intrigued to see how the update goes. Hopefully this upcoming addition will be just the beginning of either adding objectives to all maps OR expanding what we can look forward to in later updates.

                        I'm most curious to know #1 how many objectives there are, #2 whether there are any map-specific ones and #3 whether they are randomised every game to avoid repetition.


                        • #27
                          Yes I'm curious as well. Endless will always be my go-to, but if this is truly the turning point in KF2's development that it's hinted to be, it will be interesting to see how things play out. As long as it's quality content I'll be happy!

                          I don't imagine they'll be randomized every game, as it wasn't like that in the first game. And if Payday 2 is anything to go by, players will always pick a favorite variant to stand by. Who knows though!


                          • #28
                            For clarity, by 'randomise' I mean if there are say 10 objectives [1 per wave] then when you play game 2, 3, etc you won't get the same order each time OR there are a pool of say 15/20+ objectives which can occur and each game you get a random selection from that number.

                            I wouldn't mind if the final one [4th, 7th, 10th] was the same each time [as in for that map as opposed to simply being the last task before Boss/completion] but I'd like to think that if I load up say Nuked I won't be doing the same stuff, in the same order, ad infinitum.

                            Make sense?


                            • #29
                              WHEN? not getting impatient... But let me explain. Ahem
                              Beta Testing is suppose to be something that only VETERAN gamer bellonging to KF2 community would do. You dont really expect that some fresh FPS player to franchise
                              or to FPS genre generally, would think ill of your not-so-perfect BETA test launch? That is underestimating people inteligence. IF you are having tehnical issues i understand.
                              But can some1 from dev team tell us what is the Show-stopper?
                              Tnx in advance
                              Faithfully your hardcore noob snakeWUfrost
                              Last edited by snakewufrost1; 05-20-2019, 10:25 AM. Reason: typos... English not being my main, and thus my wish was to be clear


                              • #30
                                Yo seriously now, can we haz beta pls? Need to get my hands on it asap. Love u guys at TW HQ. #fullhomo