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Privay Policy Update

We’ve updated the Tripwire Privacy Notice under our Policies to be clearer about our use of customer information to come in line with the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) rules that come into force today (25th May 2018). The following are highlights of our changes:

We’ve incorporated the relevant concepts from the GDPR including joining the EU and Swiss Privacy Shield framework. We’ve added explanations for why and how Tripwire processes customer data and the types of data that we process, as well as information about your data protection rights.

For more information about our privacy practices, please review the new Privacy Policy found here:
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Offensive material
The following is a list of some things that MAY be considered "offensive" by the moderators and the team. This is NOT an exclusive list and it does depend very much on context.

Crossing the line into "offensive" territory is likely to get you asked to change your name, sig or avatar or to withdraw/delete posts. This will be done politely by the moderators. If you refuse to comply further action WILL be taken once started, ultimately leading to banning from the forums.

A key point: please attempt to use your brains. What is mild humour to you may well be deeply offensive to others. While we have no intention of acting as politically-correct "thought police", we are on the lookout for those things that can cause offense and, in some cases, are actually still illegal in some jurisdictions.
  1. Names recalling notorious war criminals or personalities.
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  6. Use of symbolism and regalia recalling Stalinism.
  7. On both the previous two, the moderators' views on the intention and impact of use of such symbols will be final - not yours. Please be understanding if you are advised to change something.
  8. In general, if a sig/avatar represents your allegiances in-game and is clearly "in part", it is likely to be fine; if the moderators feel you are trying to demonstrate unpalatable political allegiances, or to use it in an attempt to ridicule or provoke others you WILL be asked to change it. RO is NOT the place to make any extremist political statements of any kind.

So people get the idea, some examples that would be considered offensive, numbered as above:
  1. "Hitler", "Beria"
  2. "NKVD Blocking Detachment", "Einsatzgruppen"
  3. This one should be pretty obvious...
  4. So should this - and it includes calling all Germans "Nazis" and all Soviets/Russians "Commies". It got boring 50 years ago, so stop it.
  5. Use of swastikas, fasces, SS-runes and so on for the Axis.
  6. There is actually very little overt symbolism from the Stalinist era; the hammer-and-sickle isn't offensive per se.

A simple rule-of-thumb: many Europeans find Nazi symbolism of any sort offensive; many Americans still find Soviet symbolism offensive. Engage your brain before using.

Final Note: this is NOT open to debate, so please do NOT start whining and moaning if a moderator asks you to change something. They will advise at first, giving reasons, then, if you take no notice, they will step up the pressure through to banning.
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Killing Floor 2 Second Twisted Christmas Beta Is Here

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  • #16
    Originally posted by imnrk View Post

    Anything is better than the current perk!
    Originally posted by Aleflippy View Post

    Amen to that. There's really not much room for a downgrade concerning the survivalist.

    You guys make me smile.


    • #17
      Originally posted by shouryuu View Post
      At any given weight, this is the weakest option for both classes. Lowering the base weight by 1 would make it a competitive choice at all tiers.
      The MP7 dose not do more damage at the same weight than the tommy gun, but the MP7 is underpowered for the cost and weight.
      But ya even the p90 with the same mag size, less recoil, cheaper ammo, more reserve ammo, and a red dot sight dose more damage if they are both at the same weight.

      The SA80 L85A2 has the same problem most everything out classes it and its not worth using it and not have a tier 5 scar.
      and if you leave the Bullpup at tier 4, a tier 5 AK would out class it in every way.
      Last edited by 007_lord1; 11-29-2018, 03:12 PM.


      • #18
        Fix your game plz.
        [URL=""]Please fix KF2's problems before adding more content to it.[/URL]


        • #19
          Originally posted by Coffee009 View Post
          Are we getting the weapon upgrade rebalance this update at some point? I coulda swore they said christmas...
          Tripwire didn't change anything externally. Internally, however, they made quite a few changes to how the weapon upgrade system works, adding in a lot of new upgrade types to potentially be added. I made a list of the changes in simplecat's Weapon change log thread here. So, not this update, but it's coming.
          There are two types of people: those who classify people into two types and those who don't.


          • #20
            Originally posted by 007_lord1 View Post

            The MP7 dose not do more damage at the same weight than the tommy gun, but the MP7 is underpowered for the cost and weight.
            But ya even the p90 with the same mag size, less recoil, cheaper ammo, more reserve ammo, and a red dot sight dose more damage if they are both at the same weight.
            You're talking about the MP5 right? Because the MP7 is often seen (with very good reasons) as one of the best T1 weapons of the bunch. It's reliable, efficient, polyvalent...Everything a gun should be.


            • #21
              Originally posted by Grave View Post
              Care to give more details about it in the support thread? Every PC handles KF2 in its own way, and just saying "it doesn't work, fix it" gives very little to the devs to look into. Post your issues in the support section the most detailed as possible, even telling them your operating system, your PC specs and all that stuff, and I emphasize on it being very detailed. Having a bitter atitude and overall negative won't get you far.

              On another note, I'm glad Tommygun had a buff to its fire rate but cmon... an extra 5-10% of damage wouldn't hurt anybody or a 1kg less to its current weight. The main goal of KF2 current upgrade system is to make a T2 weapon viable on the last waves, like to make them compete with its higher tier brothers for the "go-to" weapon, right now the question you should ask yourselves is "would this weapon be as useful as a higher tier weapon if I upgrade it to that tier?" Upgraded Tommygun vs P90 for example, why would I upgrade Tommy?
              Last edited by Edomaro; 11-30-2018, 09:17 AM.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Aleflippy View Post

                You're talking about the MP5 right? Because the MP7 is often seen (with very good reasons) as one of the best T1 weapons of the bunch. It's reliable, efficient, polyvalent...Everything a gun should be.
                Testing all the SWAT guns in the same way,(tier 5 shooting a clot and same perk)
                The UMP, the Thompson, and the MP5 are the only ones that do more damage than the P90

                The MP7 is not as bad as I remember for some reason, but it still has the smallest mag for a SWAT tied with the UMP, is 8 Kg at tier 5 and not a very big ammo reserve for the high rate of fire(3rd highest, Kriss and Ump tied for first at 1200 RPM according to the wiki).

                Looking at the stats, it looks like the rate of fire effects the damage making the Kriss and MP7 do little damage.

                Damage each gun did on a body shot on a Cyst with a lvl 25 survivalist (testing guns probably the most useful thing the survivalist can do)
                MP7 -------- 62
                MP5 -------- 69
                Thompson - 83
                P90 -------- 66
                UMP ------- 94
                Kriss ------ 63
                Hmtech --- 53 (less damage for better recharge on the darts I guess)
                Mac 10 ---- 55 (12x2 burn damage)
                100 would of killed the clot so everything would kill in 2 body shots.


                • #23
                  Wrong topic but all my skins are gone and have been for a while now. What can I do about this?


                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Zidious G View Post
                    Wrong topic but all my skins are gone and have been for a while now. What can I do about this?
                    I've had this happen once when my game didn't properly sync up with the cloud and it gave me a rather large headache..

                    Between verifying the game cache in properties and uninstalling/reinstalling the game I got my inventory back.

                    Try the game cache first - you may get lucky.


                    • #25
                      Hurry up and release it on the live build!
                      I'm that weird Medic on your team who goes after Husks with a scalpel.