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Old 10-02-2009, 10:55 AM
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It is pictured above in my first pic. That is the bullet button installed. If that tool can remove it, then I might have to pick it up. Would be nice to have the option to go featureless or evil features with mag lock depending on the mood I am in.


That's just the cage for the button. I'm talking about the little thing that screws on to the mag catch. Did it have two little notches that you put a screwdriver into to screw the thing on?

If so, then that red button thingy is what you need.


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Personally, I'd leave the button installed. If you want to go featureless, just screw the button in place, and you're good to go. It's easier to just change out your evil grip for the MMG, and there's a much decreased risk of scratching your receiver.

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Old 10-02-2009, 02:17 PM
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Not sure, that is how it came. I did not install it.


Would you happen to know how to remove the bullet button/ latch assembly and spring?

I looked at some youtube videos, but I can't see what they are doing on the side with the selector switch.


It came with these original parts (on the AK mag):


I just don't get how to remove the catch assembly (I am assuming this is the thing right below the bolt release button?).
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:40 PM
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Not sure, that is how it came. I did not install it.


Would you happen to know how to remove the bullet button/ latch assembly and spring?

I looked at some youtube videos, but I can't see what they are doing on the side with the selector switch.


It came with these original parts (on the AK mag):


I just don't get how to remove the catch assembly (I am assuming this is the thing right below the bolt release button?).


Yeah, that's where the magazine catch is. It's really easy to take out ... with the proper tool.

The big black thing sticking out of the right side of the receiver, where the magazine release button should be. Take a flashlight and look in the hole. You'll see a post with a ring around it. The ring should be notched on either side of the post. If you're VERY lucky, this was installed with a screwdriver, not with the right tool. Stick a screwdriver in there and VERY VERY GENTLY unscrew the ring. Keep pressure on it while you unscrew, and carefully release the pressure when you've got it unscrewed - there's a spring underneath it.

When you've got the ring and the spring out, the mag catch should fall out the bottom. Lift out the piece of black aluminum. (Note that it was inserted with the small hole down. This is important if you want to put it back in!)

Now, put the long spring that's in your picture down over the threaded rod for the mag catch, and place the mag release button (the other bit in the picture) above it, with the hole lined up. Press this down so that the mag catch extends past the bolt release and the reinforcing ribs. CAREFULLY turn the catch so that the rod screws into the button. Be careful - if you slip, you can scratch the hell out of your receiver, and that would just look ugly. You'll probably need to push the button WAY into the receiver, so have a piece of wood handy, or a flat-bladed screwdriver with some cloth or something covering the end of it to prevent scratching / gouging. Screw the thing in far enough that ... eh, it'll probably be right about to the top of the hole in the button when you're done, but have an empty magazine handy and make sure that it goes in and out without hanging up, and that it stays securely in place when inserted.

It doesn't take very long to do, really. Just a minute or two.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:06 PM
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Oh, and I just thought of this:

DO NOT, repeat DO NOT use the grip shown in that picture from a few posts ago, the one with the badly photoshopped magazine well. It's not the MonsterMan. It's a slip-on cover that goes over the normal pistol grip. It does not REPLACE the pistol grip with something else ... it merely HIDES it. It's still there, and that means that a cop with a nasty attitude can (and probably will) take your gun and put you in the pokey.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:21 PM
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Thanks for the tips. I'll have to try that whenever I get the chance. I don't have any mags now though.


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Oh, and I just thought of this:

DO NOT, repeat DO NOT use the grip shown in that picture from a few posts ago, the one with the badly photoshopped magazine well. It's not the MonsterMan. It's a slip-on cover that goes over the normal pistol grip. It does not REPLACE the pistol grip with something else ... it merely HIDES it. It's still there, and that means that a cop with a nasty attitude can (and probably will) take your gun and put you in the pokey.

It is just as legal as an MMG. Yes, it goes over the standard grip. This means you can unscrew it when you go out of state and have a normal pistol grip.

Perfectly legal. If a cop arrests you over it, they will likely arrest you over a BB or MMG to.

Thankfully my local range is well versed in the law. They have no problem with my MMG AK and 10/30 mags.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the tips. I'll have to try that whenever I get the chance. I don't have any mags now though.





It is just as legal as an MMG. Yes, it goes over the standard grip. This means you can unscrew it when you go out of state and have a normal pistol grip.

Perfectly legal. If a cop arrests you over it, they will likely arrest you over a BB or MMG to.

Thankfully my local range is well versed in the law. They have no problem with my MMG AK and 10/30 mags.


There's a key difference between that cover and the MMG or bullet button. The MMG and bullet button both REMOVE the part and REPLACE it with something else. That cover doesn't replace anything ... it just conceals it. They could quite easily make the case that covering up an evil feature doesn't make it go away. The only way to make the evil feature go away is to remove it from the weapon and put something else not evil in there.

I consulted with my local PD on this one, too. They are cool with my bullet button. They would NOT be cool with that cover.
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:35 AM
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Doesn't matter if there is a pistol grip or not. A pistol grip is not illegal unless the rifle is configured correctly.

If there is no pistol style grasp or it does not protrude conspicuously downward, then it is legal. We have no constructive assault weapons law. If a cop finds that illegal, then they need to study the law more. And if a cop does, I would not show him any AK/AR unless it was registered as an assault weapon since they clearly don't know the law.

They can use that same logic to argue that a bullet button is covering up the fact that the rifle does not have a fixed magazine, despite it not functioning the same. Especially those quick screw ones. Or pinned collapsible/folding stocks ect.


Worse come to worse, you can fix it the same way as you can fix a 30 round mag to 10 (expoxy/JB weld).


Either way, I intend on using it, as many others are. If you feel it is unsafe, stick to the BB or MMG.

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Old 10-08-2009, 11:45 PM
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Got some Pmags today. Should have bought a 4th one, they were cheap. Think I'll stick with these. I can see the metal mags scratching the rifle up really bad. And going from an AK to an AR is odd. Seems really hard to insert the mag straight up, got used to the AK style. These are really light to.




Now I need an ambi safety and a dumb grip, then I can get my upper. Probably won't have the upper for nearly a year though.

Hopefully .223 will be cheaper by then.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:49 AM
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Where'd you get the Pmags? How much?


Why's it going to take forever to get your upper?
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:53 AM
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Bought them off of someone local. $25 each. Prefixed to 10/30s. Guess that is cheap for CA. They go for $30 locally for non windowed which usually goes for less. I've seen non windowed 10/30s for $24 online, but with shipping it would cost more.

I probably could have bought them for $18 or so each and converted them myself, but I am bad with tools so I thought this was safer than fixing them myself.

Too bad the windows are useless with 10 rounds.


As for buying the upper, I am completely out of money.

Still have to send my DVD drive in for a replacement (another $12, damn you Samsung!) and other stuff. So it will be a while until I get the funds. I want to shoot my AK some more to.

So it will be a while until it is done.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:28 PM
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I'm going to have to visit Reno or something, I think. I want some non-castrated magazines to hide in the attic or something, just for SHTF. I got just plain old 10-round C Products metal magazines for now - don't really care about the looks so much as function.

What I -really- need, though, is a milling machine, so I can make my own stuff, and not have to worry about when the f&^$tards in Sacramento decide to grab my toys.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:40 PM
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I wanted to go 10/10 mags at first, but found out they sucked for quick reloads. When pulling the 10/10 mag out of my pocket, I am holding the top which slows down reloads with the AK.


That is why I prefer 10/20 or 10/30. A larger area to grab onto.


You can also legally keep all the rebuild kits you want. So just keep a bunch of rebuild kits disassembled and you will be fine.

They show up all the time on Calguns.net.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:42 PM
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Got my AR-15 upper. Was going to get a Colt retro, but a lot of people advised me against it. Had a chopped off bayo lug, a missing flash hider washer, and some other little things.

Instead I got a CMMG mid length complete upper for $465, with some BCM part in it (forgot what). Now I just need the sights. Will probably get an ambi safety to.




But the person who bought my AK wouldn't take it for the asking price. So I am $75 short. If I had got the Colt, I'd have sights, an extra stock, extra pistol grip with cash for ammo. But, that's life.

Can't wait to shoot it.

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Old 11-14-2009, 05:16 PM
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Got my AR-15 upper. Was going to get a Colt retro, but a lot of people advised me against it. Had a chopped off bayo lug, a missing flash hider washer, and some other little things.

Instead I got a CMMG mid length complete upper for $465, with some BCM part in it (forgot what). Now I just need the sights. Will probably get an ambi safety to.




But the person who bought my AK wouldn't take it for the asking price. So I am $75 short. If I had got the Colt, I'd have sights, an extra stock, extra pistol grip with cash for ammo. But, that's life.

Can't wait to shoot it.

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Nice, I'm in the preliminary stages of building 2 ARs, you've got a good taste in parts.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:13 PM
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Yeah, I like the rifles basic. I don't mind optics and whatnot, but everyone these days goes way too tacticool.

I finished my AR-15. For now it is complete and ready to shoot.



Sight picture (big circle):



Small:











Sight is a Daniel Defense A1.5 fixed rear sight. So far I like the way it looks.

Specs:
Upper = CMMG .223 mid length with BCM something it it.
Lower = Grizzly Multical, DMPS parts kit and A2 stock
Sights: DD A1.5
Bullet Button

$831 total. Would've been $60 or so cheaper if not in CA.

Just need to learn how to zero the sights.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:05 PM
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Hi guys, ive got a deactivated Mosin Nagant 91/30. Ive just tried to load a dummy bullet and ive just found out that the barrel is blocked to near the end so the bullet cant go into the barrel which is a real bummer. Im wondering now, what if i were to use a pillar drill to drill through the blockage (all it looks like is a steel screw or stick that blocks the barrel) so i can load insert rounds, am i breaking the law (UK) and could i get charged if ever found out that the blockage has been tampered with? I would block it up again so it would still be unusable.

Thanks for any help.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:16 PM
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Hi guys, ive got a deactivated Mosin Nagant 91/30. Ive just tried to load a dummy bullet and ive just found out that the barrel is blocked to near the end so the bullet cant go into the barrel which is a real bummer. Im wondering now, what if i were to use a pillar drill to drill through the blockage (all it looks like is a steel screw or stick that blocks the barrel) so i can load insert rounds, am i breaking the law (UK) and could i get charged if ever found out that the blockage has been tampered with? I would block it up again so it would still be unusable.

Thanks for any help.
I think it is obvious that it would be breaking the law if you removed the blockage so my advice is that you don't tamper with your gun.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:12 PM
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I think it is obvious that it would be breaking the law if you removed the blockage so my advice is that you don't tamper with your gun.
yeah you're right, the last thing i want is to be arrested just because i wanted to put a useless bullet in.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:02 PM
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also, there are so many retarded ppl on earth, one is going to put a live one in there... (if you ever sell it)
well you see there are many parts of the gun barrel that are blocked. The end of the barrel is plugged up with a piece of steel dowel along with a piles of other stuff. There is a huge slice right along the barrel and a large opening in the chamber. But never mind, dont want to get into trouble.
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:04 PM
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Why not get a real gun?

Last I heard, you can own guns in the UK. Mosins and other bolt action guns.

You can even own bolt action AR-15s.

No ammo capacity restrictions either. Pretty sure you have to keep it at the shooting range/gun club though.

But I could be wrong.
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