Lack of solid detail

nxsakb said:

Alright here goes. Ever since I started playing ro2 I've had the complaint of lack of detail and color. Everything is very saturated and blends together making it very difficult to spot enemy players. This is amplified while running I've noticed causing me to not notice the most obvious of enemies. I play with fairly low settings because of a dual core processor, but I have set my game to ultra on several occasions to see how it looked and I noticed no change. I don't know if it's the engine or what, but there has to be something I can do or TW can do.

Besides just that there are many things graphically I'd like to mention. When foliage is turned to the lowest settings all grass disappears. I really don't even need to mention why this is a problem, especially with TWILADDER coming up. With settings on low many important things are lost/or broken like tracers, lighting(also adds to the issue I previously mentioned), sounds(footsteps, talking, arty). I get why these things are graphicly turned down(hence the low setting) but the things I mentioned shouldn't be altered with all that much more than they are w/ultra settings. That way the game is more even accross the board.

Here are just 2 of the screenshots I quickly took. As you can see it's difficult to spot my teamate in just a 10-15 foot room. Imagine this at 40-100 yards. The lack of depth perseption on the guy from the wall is also effected.

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BUT THATS WAR LOLZ . CANT HANDLE THE ULTRA SUPER DUPER REALISM? COD SCRUB



/sarcasm

Playing Ro2 after BF3 is like that transition from B&W to color in the Wizard of Oz.

Munchkins come out and start singing and everything.

those first two thumbs are HORRIBLE! there's no way in hell, i'd play the game with the video setting you use!

nxsakb said:

They look slightly worse than they do ingame, do to pixel size, but that's not the point. :S

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they look a whole lot worse than anything i've seen in the game. i couldn't play with it set close to that.

You are complaining because the game looks bad in LOW settings? Well, you should upgrade your PC man.
The game looks perfect on Ultra, and I even spot people to easly.

i'm not sure what you have your video setting at to make them that hard to see. but for me, that would kill the game, if russians were that easily hidden. it's like we're playing a different game.

On the other hand I'm satisfied with the abundance of liquid detail.

Apart from telling us what settings you are running the game on - what map is that taken from?!

[TW]Wilsonam said:

Apart from telling us what settings you are running the game on - what map is that taken from?!

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gotta be cold steel.
and yes, i wish i knew what his settings are. i want to make sure i never set mine to match his.

Looks like he's using Ostfront settings to me.

Agenda_Suicide said:

Looks like he's using Ostfront settings to me.

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the last two thumbnails were OST pics. they look great, compared to what he has RO-HOS set at.

I guess those settings are all at the minimum that you can use. I have played around with graphic settings quite a lot because on many occasions when I thought I had found a cheater, it actually turned out (to me at least) that the other player probably will run some graphic settings on lowest possible.

On one occasion I was sniper on Spartanovka and I couldn't believe that I was always killed while in my eyes, I was perfectly concealed with approx. a 3 feet area that I covered by myself (left Axis 1st spawn at the tank).

However, after checking this with a friend, the complete erazing of fooliage when setting graphics to lowest possible made the ground a flat area and in fact, I appeared lying in the complete open. No single grass straw to see. That was explanation enough.

Another easy "cheat" as I would call it, is to play around with gamma settings, not only on night maps.Especially the russian uniforms can become so bright that the player would have to wear sunglasses in order to compensate the big "shoot me" sign, the russian uniforms become then.

However, the game looks completely ugly when tweakening the settings like I described and I am NEVER playing with different graphic settings than the ones I got used to. Especially since I paid quite some money on a high end PC.

Considering nxsakb's reference to a potential ladder/clan event concern, you will face people playing with lowest settings possible in order to gain an advantage over competitors. If you like it or not.

I played this game for the fun, not for the competition, while I like the competition and don't think I need to take advantages through graphic settings. That's lame.

What I would like however was that even on the most minimalistic graphic settings, fooliage is still represented in such way that a guy hiding/covering himself, is also somehow covered in the eyes of a player that uses low settings. Cause it's an extreme immersion breaker if your enemy has eagle eyes.

He has a point regarding the grass dissapearing on the low settings though. Grass and foliage should remain in game for everyone! Don't think about hiding in the grass, because there will be people who see it as you laying just out in the open. That should be solved somehow.

r5cya said:

the last two thumbnails were OST pics. they look great, compared to what he has RO-HOS set at.

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He chooses a place in an RO2 with no lighting and complains he can't see avatars lol.

Well unlike certain other games maybe we can get some color filtration mods?

Other than that, I recieve no problems. You just have to get used to it I guess. Maybe it's just certain areas/maps you play on. People are supposed to blend in anyways, camoflauge? ^_^

Oh damn I forgot to add more detail in that specific area/room.
Can you do me a favor and please make some screens taken in other areas of that map.
You really posses the knowlegde to pick an ugly spot....

Just an inquiring question: Why didn't you choose a stock map to reproduce and explain the issue rather than a custom map, in which you should have posted in Dreck's Coldsteel feedback thread? Unless of course, this happens in stock maps as well. I play on max settings across the board so I wouldn't know.