November 2nd beta patch benchmarks

[Vulchan]

As some of you know, I have been whining a fair amount about the game's current poor performance. It is only fair for me to be upset when my rig is capable of running unreal engine 3 games at a solid 60fps with little to no stuttering. I've tried just about anything out of desperation, but with no success. Yoshiro has been kind enough to give us early access to the postponed Nov. 2nd patch. I took the liberty of running some rough (and I mean rough) benchmark samples to compare performance differences.

My benchmark methods are as follows;

1. Installed patch
2. Change settings to "Ultra"
3. Use console to open TE-GrainElevator (No bots, No netcode)
4. Select Allies with PPSH-41 and MN Revolver
5. Wait for fps to stabilize
6. Enter match and start FRAPS benchmark simultaneously
7. Perform a 360 turn and sprint through level, being consistent as humanly possible.
8. Arrive at consistent end-point, end the FRAPS benchmark and disconnect
9. Repeat steps 3-8 three separate times
10. Roll-Back patch to previous version
11. Repeat steps 2-9

My results are as follows;

Patched
Min Avg= 17.33
Max Avg= 48.33
Avg Avg= 36.6

Current Version:
Min Avg= 15.33
Max Avg= 47
Avg Avg= 35.6

There you have it folks, the new patch does feel a little bit better to be honest, but it's not the dramatically improved patch I am eagerly awaiting.

To be fair, I was not able to play back a demo I recorded, so these are not the most consistent tests.

[CocaineInMyBrain]

Seems to be a negligible improvement, but an improvement nonetheless. What are your system specs btw. I have a feeling that guys with lower end machines like me arn't gonna get any improvement at all.

[Vulchan]

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965BE OC @3.41 GHz

a: Corsair H70 single radiator liquid cooler, 2x fans @100%

RAM: 4 2GB Sticks of Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 @800

GPU: 2 AMD Radeon HD6870s crossfire @default clocks

a: stock coolers @100% fan speed

b: 11.10 beta drivers

Sound Card: Cheap Diamond 7.1 from retail store

Network Card: Bigfoot Networks Killer 2100

PSU: Xigmatek 850W modular

Case: Cooler Master HAF (original)

a: All fans @100%

OS: Windows 7 x64 Ultimate

Monitor: Samsung 1680x1050

[Skvate]

Can you do the same test on maps that has the worst performance(pavlov, barracks, station)?

Also, if you performed this test "manually", these results does not show much.

We need a "timedemo" of sorts to perform better benchmarks. These where common in games in the "old days".

[CaseyHairyback]

1. Is it confirmed that this game is more CPU game than GPU?

If so, Arma2 is a good example of amd vs intel ->
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/11/0...mance_review/2

In theory you could get 20-30fps boost if you have Sandy Bridge CPU...

2. Have you tried official (not BETA) 11.10 drivers AND 11.9 CAP 4 crossfire profile?
I think if you are not using that 11.9 CAP 4 thingy, you don't get any boost from 6870 CF compared to single 6870...

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...n_win7-64.aspx

[Colt .45 killer]

A: Are you running radeon pro with bioshock crossfire?

B: What does GPU-z say your GPU usage is when gaming?


Radeon pro doubled my fps. ( I still get stutters though )

[Apos]

Originally Posted by CaseyHairyback

1. Is it confirmed that this game is more CPU game than GPU?

If so, Arma2 is a good example of amd vs intel ->
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/11/0...mance_review/2

In theory you could get 20-30fps boost if you have Sandy Bridge CPU...

Yes, it is more CPU game than HPU due engine cpu bottleneck. Needs to be fixed however I can confirm yours theory.
I play RO2 since close beta (clans beta) and on Sandy Bridge I've never had fps problems. I have mainstream i5 2500k @ 4.2Ghz and since retail release my fps never went lover than 60.

[CaseyHairyback]

Originally Posted by Apos

Yes, it is more CPU game than HPU due engine cpu bottleneck. Needs to be fixed however I can confirm yours theory.
I play RO2 since close beta (clans beta) and on Sandy Bridge I've never had fps problems. I have mainstream i5 2500k @ 4.2Ghz and since retail release my fps never went lover than 60.

Thanks for the heads up. Im running amd 955be at 4.0Ghz and it doesn't help much I see, cause I don't have SB 8)

Im asking devs to make this game more AMD cpu friendly if possible, im not interested to move from amd platform to intel just because of this game.
BF3 runs perfectly, but that is a GPU game... Tho I haven't bought that game and will not...

[Vulchan]

Originally Posted by Skvate

Can you do the same test on maps that has the worst performance(pavlov, barracks, station)?

Also, if you performed this test "manually", these results does not show much.

We need a "timedemo" of sorts to perform better benchmarks. These where common in games in the "old days".

Since the new patch was released soon after I posted this, I won't draw any more comparisons between the two since we can't do a whole lot about it now. I do agree that TWI needs to get the demo record feature up and running ASAP so we can all compare the same benchmark, and hopefully catch some bugs by always recording what happens.

Originally Posted by CaseyHairyback

1. Is it confirmed that this game is more CPU game than GPU?

If so, Arma2 is a good example of amd vs intel ->
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/11/0...mance_review/2

In theory you could get 20-30fps boost if you have Sandy Bridge CPU...

2. Have you tried official (not BETA) 11.10 drivers AND 11.9 CAP 4 crossfire profile?
I think if you are not using that 11.9 CAP 4 thingy, you don't get any boost from 6870 CF compared to single 6870...

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloa...n_win7-64.aspx

I've seen poor performance from every type of CPU, but I have also seen more sandy bridge users who have no performance issues. Thanks for giving me the heads-up on the official drivers with the CAP4, didn't catch wind of those somehow.

Originally Posted by Colt .45 killer

A: Are you running radeon pro with bioshock crossfire?

B: What does GPU-z say your GPU usage is when gaming?


Radeon pro doubled my fps. ( I still get stutters though )

A: What do you mean by radeon pro?
B: GPU-z logged a rough average GPU load % of about 60-70 where max was a rare 81 and Min was 28

[SolitarioSoldat]

@ Vulchan

Hey dude makes me wonder why Am'I getting higher FPS than you.... I do have the x6 Phenom clocked @4.0Ghz and northbridge is at stock speeds, I got the H50 cooler though,the H70 should be better I guess IDK...

Any ways look at my specs its almost same as urs except the 6 core CPU that I have but then RO2 dont use more than 3 cores,so we should be in the same boat right?

My settings in game are pretty much 85% Ultra 15% High and this is what I get FPS wise:

High FPS: 105
Medium FPS: 50-70
Low FPS: 30-35

Average: 60-80 FPS

CPU Usage: 35-50%
GPU1 Usage: 25-35%
GPU2 usage: 25-35%

If TWI can implement DX11 then we can start seeing high CPU and GPU utilization. Dont despare people with I7-2600K and GTX580 x2 have the same problems as you do.

seems like utilization problem lies deep in the coding of the game,TWI is struggling on this one....

[Vulchan]

Originally Posted by SolitarioSoldat

@ Vulchan

Hey dude makes me wonder why Am'I getting higher FPS than you.... I do have the x6 Phenom clocked @4.0Ghz and northbridge is at stock speeds, I got the H50 cooler though,the H70 should be better I guess IDK...

Any ways look at my specs its almost same as urs except the 6 core CPU that I have but then RO2 dont use more than 3 cores,so we should be in the same boat right?

My settings in game are pretty much 85% Ultra 15% High and this is what I get FPS wise:

High FPS: 105
Medium FPS: 50-70
Low FPS: 30-35

Average: 60-80 FPS

CPU Usage: 35-50%
GPU1 Usage: 25-35%
GPU2 usage: 25-35%

If TWI can implement DX11 then we can start seeing high CPU and GPU utilization. Dont despare people with I7-2600K and GTX580 x2 have the same problems as you do.

seems like utilization problem lies deep in the coding of the game,TWI is struggling on this one....

I've spent more time fiddling with different drivers, in-game settings, windows settings, .ini settings than I have actually playing the game. I've been searching for that "quick fix" this whole time, but I've just got to accept that I must wait for Dx11 (AKA, the answer) to be implemented.

It's kinda funny how I spend $340 to max this one game out, but it just happens to be the one game I can't run...

Maybe your SSD or better RAM is the key to better performance, since those are the only two things that really excel against my setup.

[SolitarioSoldat]

Originally Posted by Vulchan

I've spent more time fiddling with different drivers, in-game settings, windows settings, .ini settings than I have actually playing the game. I've been searching for that "quick fix" this whole time, but I've just got to accept that I must wait for Dx11 (AKA, the answer) to be implemented.

It's kinda funny how I spend $340 to max this one game out, but it just happens to be the one game I can't run...

Maybe your SSD or better RAM is the key to better performance, since those are the only two things that really excel against my setup.

Maeby the ram since its running at 1600Mhz,but then the timings I'm running it is not that great either,you too got 8GB... I do not believe that ram speed makes much difference in performance increase as much of how much RAM memory you have at you'r dissposal.

The SSD dont do squad performance wise,it does load maps few seconds faster than my HDD since I have RO2 installed on it.

BTW hail to steam Mover program,I can finally download all my games and be mowing them to the HDD without the headaches and loosing my hair trying to create Junction points.... I just failed in every attempt to do it manually and just lost my patience