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Old 08-10-2011, 10:17 PM
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Nvidia doesn't recommend RO2: Heroes of Stalingrad in 3d. Any chance this will get addressed down the road after release?
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:24 PM
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I have asked this many times however have never recieved an answer from tripwire. I hope they do because I use my 3D tv often...
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:26 PM
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is there 3D support for Red Orchestra, maybe Tripwire are with AMD and not Nvidia
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:55 PM
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There are a lot of visual effects that go into RO2 (optics, lighting, suppression effect) that really would make 3D look crapp(ier)

I've seen many games do good with 3D, but they tend to be RTS games or games with simple cartoony graphics. Realistic games like Crysis tend to show a lot of graphical artifacts.

So Nvidia probably doesn't want to get people's hopes up.
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Old 08-11-2011, 02:14 AM
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There are a lot of visual effects that go into RO2 (optics, lighting, suppression effect) that really would make 3D look crapp(ier)

I've seen many games do good with 3D, but they tend to be RTS games or games with simple cartoony graphics. Realistic games like Crysis tend to show a lot of graphical artifacts.

So Nvidia probably doesn't want to get people's hopes up.
Crysis 2 uses a pseudo-3D type thing to achieve the 3D performance they are able to get with it enabled.

RO1 is relatively decent in 3D, but i'm not sure if that's because of nVidia's driver tweaking and support for 3D or if Tripwire had their hand in making sure it was a better experience
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It would be really neat if the eye-points were situated where they're suppose to be, right eye over IS, left eye to the..er...left.

That gives you an unobstructed view with your left eye.
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Old 08-11-2011, 02:58 AM
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is there 3D support for Red Orchestra, maybe Tripwire are with AMD and not Nvidia
Hey I will be very happy with that, if its true. I just replaced my GTS 250 with 6850 No srsly, I am tired of this "Nvidia, its meant to be played" in every game. Its just trolling AMD users
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It's 3D, not exactly the end of the world. I'd be more upset if I couldn't tweak my shadow settings.
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:49 AM
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3d is still in its infancy as a technology but its still important considering the amount of 3d technology that is likely to come out soon. We're only really exploring 3D's potential now to enhance immersion in games and as 3d gets bettwe, so does the potential of old games. No reason not to have 3d optimisation.
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:52 AM
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No reason not to have 3d optimisation
Only if developer time is free. It's not. It's actually a very, very valuable resource.

TW is (wisely) not going to spend potentially significant amounts of time on something that will only benefit a very small percentage of users.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:17 AM
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Hey I will be very happy with that, if its true. I just replaced my GTS 250 with 6850 No srsly, I am tired of this "Nvidia, its meant to be played" in every game. Its just trolling AMD users
6850 owners hi five. While the Nvidia logo before every game is annoying, the same must be for Nvidia owners when the AMD one pops up.
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There are a lot of visual effects that go into RO2 (optics, lighting, suppression effect) that really would make 3D look crapp(ier)

I've seen many games do good with 3D, but they tend to be RTS games or games with simple cartoony graphics. Realistic games like Crysis tend to show a lot of graphical artifacts.

So Nvidia probably doesn't want to get people's hopes up.
This is bull.

Nvidia rate Bioshock as one of their "good" games, and that has just as many if not more effects than RO2, and is based on the same engine.

BTW, OP is wrong, RO2 is listed as "poor", not "not recommended".
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:09 AM
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You know AMD has 3D tech called HD3D......right? I'm pretty sure that other FPS coming out supports both too.

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Old 08-11-2011, 07:23 AM
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Hey I will be very happy with that, if its true. I just replaced my GTS 250 with 6850 No srsly, I am tired of this "Nvidia, its meant to be played" in every game. Its just trolling AMD users
Who's fault is it that developers have a closer relationship with nvidia.

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Old 08-11-2011, 08:21 AM
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There are a lot of visual effects that go into RO2 (optics, lighting, suppression effect) that really would make 3D look crapp(ier)

I've seen many games do good with 3D, but they tend to be RTS games or games with simple cartoony graphics. Realistic games like Crysis tend to show a lot of graphical artifacts.

So Nvidia probably doesn't want to get people's hopes up.

Actually, BFBC2 is rated 3d ready, it when turned all the way up, it has a substantial amount of effects. It looks amazing in 3d btw.

They must have just up'd it to Poor, from Not Recommended.

Either way, this was something I would hope for WAY down the road, after plenty of tanks have been added and whatnot.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:34 AM
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They must have just up'd it to Poor, from Not Recommended.
This is not true. It has been Poor all the time AFAIK, at least for two days while this topic was created yesterday.

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Old 08-11-2011, 10:39 AM
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Only if developer time is free. It's not. It's actually a very, very valuable resource.

TW is (wisely) not going to spend potentially significant amounts of time on something that will only benefit a very small percentage of users.
perfectly said.
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:13 AM
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Only if developer time is free. It's not. It's actually a very, very valuable resource.

TW is (wisely) not going to spend potentially significant amounts of time on something that will only benefit a very small percentage of users.
The question is of course how much time it would take. General issues with games with 3d stereoscopic viewing. Is that shadows and post processing often lack depth information so shadows like float in the air. And that first person weaponry doesn't have the correct 3d information.

In the end while tripple monitor setups, and 3d setups are not that common. Its kind of odd to see console ports obtaining a good rating, with a pc only game a poor rating. I hope that at some point with an update TWI will add 3d support. Especially after they talked about it in a crosshairs podcast.
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Old 08-11-2011, 09:27 PM
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The question is of course how much time it would take.
Of course, and that's something only the developers would know. However, I'm guessing that it's something higher than "trivial", and if so their time would be better spend elsewhere.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:17 AM
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Nvidia doesn't recommend RO2: Heroes of Stalingrad in 3d. Any chance this will get addressed down the road after release?
The reason is the cheat blocker, which can misinterpret the two cameras needed for 3d with people using two cameras, say, to have one looking behind them in case of sneak attacks.

This is the same reason why 3d won't work with bfbc2 etc..

If punkbuster has exceptions for the game, all we need is a bit of work from the tripwire devs to have a second view of the gun from a slightly altered perspective.

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