Mg42?

[SCandChives]

Just looking for some clarification from the devs mainly but anyone else is free to add their two cents.

Will we be seeing the MG42 in RO2?

I hope so and don't really see a reason for it not to be included, they were certainly more bountiful than the Mkb42.

So if anyone knows the answer please tell us Yes, no, maybe?

[Forssen]

It doesn't look like it but I hope it will be in.

[2_k]

It seems like there is no mg42 in game. At least, no any mention of mg42 from devs, in contrast to other weapons.

More over, if mg42 was included in game, then i think, placing it instead of mg34 on tripod could be more logically, in terms of game. Imho.

[Frostedfire]

Originally Posted by 2_k

It seems like there is no mg42 in game. At least, no any mention of mg42 from devs, in contrast to other weapons.

More over, if mg42 was included in game, then i think, placing it instead of mg34 on tripod could be more logically, in terms of game. Imho.

that might be the point, part of the balance to not have people running around with that huge belt spamming at everything, then realised it's just going to be on one platform that the mg34 does fine on anyway :P

[Unus Offa, Unus Nex]

If the game spans until 1943 then it pretty much has to be there. Removing it for balancing issues is very unlike Tripwire, who usually try to achieve balance by other means, such as map placements & reinforcement numbers.

[Kleist]

Remove it because the balance? No that couldn't be, HoS isn't like CoD where everybody could choose every weapon for a better balance.

And by the way, the sovjets using the PPsh41 (71 rounds) vs MPi 40 (32 rounds)

Would be nice if all weapons are realistic as possible. The balance comes trough teamwork.


But i hope that we can see the MG42 in HoS, too.

And later an Add On with late war weapons and tanks like the StG44, Panther and T34/85 for a battlefield after Stalingrad.
The Battle of Stalingrad, is the base, but you are able to play the whole WW2 with this one game. All you need are more Weapons, Vehicles and some (custom) maps, the engine would be perfect

[S/Sgt. Raider]

Actually, I may be wrong but, in one of the screenshots I'm pretty sure theres a MG42 on a tripod.

[Unterscharfuhrer]

Originally Posted by S/Sgt. Raider

Actually, I may be wrong but, in one of the screenshots I'm pretty sure theres a MG42 on a tripod.

Sad to say it but you´re wrong, no mg42 in the release version, but maybe as a dlc some shiny day

[LordKhaine]

I think many people view the Stalingrad timeline in far too severe terms. As if anything pre or especially post Stalingrad shall never see the light of day. I personally think that Stalingrad will really form more the solid basis for expansion.

I'm 100% certain about this really. Much content will be released outside the time scale of Stalingrad. It may well come from the devs, or it may well only come from fans. But it's certain to be there. And an MG-42 is about as sure a bet as there is.

[C_Gibby]

Khaine's got a good point, actually. I bet there won't be an MG42 on release day, but I sure as hell won't be suprised to see it post-release.

[Unus Offa, Unus Nex]

Originally Posted by LordKhaine

I think many people view the Stalingrad timeline in far too severe terms. As if anything pre or especially post Stalingrad shall never see the light of day. I personally think that Stalingrad will really form more the solid basis for expansion.

I'm 100% certain about this really. Much content will be released outside the time scale of Stalingrad. It may well come from the devs, or it may well only come from fans. But it's certain to be there. And an MG-42 is about as sure a bet as there is.

Yep, that's for sure. But would be optimal if the MG42 is in from the start seeing as the timeline for the game as I understand it will be from 41 to 43. (It isn't a deal breaker if it isn't though, just abit odd) Later on as expansions to the game come out, the timeline will be stretched and we'll see more and more hardware added.

Personally I'm hoping that the game will be such a huge success that Tripwire will be able to hire extra staff and new content will take less time to make.

[Scharfschütze]

The MG 42 gone to the troops after its development in 1942. That means that the equippement of it has taken more time, especially the delivery to stalingrad takes a long time. And the battle of stalingrad began at september 1942. Hard to imagine if there were MG 42 at stalingrad. Is someone familiar with the historical context?

If there were MG 42 then it is a disgrace for tripwire not to set the MG 42 in the game, if there weren´t any, then its ok for me.



And the "tripod" as you called it, is called in german "Lafette". I had instructions on it with the MG 3 at the german Bundeswehr.
It decreases the recoil, increases precision (with a scope; dont know if this is a modern advancement) and has a system that relocate the trigger deeper that allows to fire while beeing behind a wall (also a angle piece for the scope)
It can be interfolded and then carried on the back like a backpack. It weights ca. 25 kg, but sprinting and robbing with it is posssible. The duration of Assembling / Dismounting takes something between 1 and 2 minutes, depends on how skilled you are.
A nasty gadget...

[Serathis]

Originally Posted by Kleist

Remove it because the balance? No that couldn't be, HoS isn't like CoD where everybody could choose every weapon for a better balance.

And by the way, the sovjets using the PPsh41 (71 rounds) vs MPi 40 (32 rounds)

Would be nice if all weapons are realistic as possible. The balance comes trough teamwork.


But i hope that we can see the MG42 in HoS, too.

And later an Add On with late war weapons and tanks like the StG44, Panther and T34/85 for a battlefield after Stalingrad.
The Battle of Stalingrad, is the base, but you are able to play the whole WW2 with this one game. All you need are more Weapons, Vehicles and some (custom) maps, the engine would be perfect

The 71 round mag for the PPsh will be an upgrade, you won't start with it.

[C_Gibby]

Originally Posted by Serathis

The 71 round mag for the PPsh will be an upgrade, you won't start with it.

I don't think I'd ever be using the drum mag myself tbh... In RO:Ost, I always picked the PPS-43 whenever I could due to the 30-odd round magazines. Better way of conserving ammo, you see. I get encouraged to go nuts when I have a 71-round drum mag and I'm facing only one partially-covered guy...

[Kleist]

Originally Posted by Serathis

The 71 round mag for the PPsh will be an upgrade, you won't start with it.

That wouldn't be authentic, because the PPsh-41 has an standard drum magazine with 71 rounds or a clip with only 35 rounds (like the PPS-43)

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

Originally Posted by Unus Offa, Unus Nex

If the game spans until 1943 then it pretty much has to be there. Removing it for balancing issues is very unlike Tripwire, who usually try to achieve balance by other means, such as map placements & reinforcement numbers.

Originally Posted by Kleist

Remove it because the balance? No that couldn't be, HoS isn't like CoD where everybody could choose every weapon for a better balance.

And by the way, the sovjets using the PPsh41 (71 rounds) vs MPi 40 (32 rounds)

Would be nice if all weapons are realistic as possible. The balance comes trough teamwork.


But i hope that we can see the MG42 in HoS, too.

And later an Add On with late war weapons and tanks like the StG44, Panther and T34/85 for a battlefield after Stalingrad.
The Battle of Stalingrad, is the base, but you are able to play the whole WW2 with this one game. All you need are more Weapons, Vehicles and some (custom) maps, the engine would be perfect

No, simply the point is that "realism" and "balance" cannot exist in the same game, since the reality was, is and will ever be "unbalanced". Stop.

[Combaticus]

It has been anounced that higher ranked people will have access to more rare guns, so it would be very logical to think that since the mg42 would not be very common in Stalingrad, the mg42 could possibly be a reward for a veteran machine gunner (since in one of the videos, it shows each class has its own ranks, and other stuff).

[Frostedfire]

Originally Posted by Kleist

And by the way, the sovjets using the PPsh41 (71 rounds) vs MPi 40 (32 rounds)

and ironically they balanced it by the ppsh shooting EVERYTHING to buggary at 10m where you could use the mp40 to snipe at least across the square in zhitomir...

[Dwin]

Originally Posted by Frostedfire

and ironically they balanced it by the ppsh shooting EVERYTHING to buggary at 10m where you could use the mp40 to snipe at least across the square in zhitomir...

Except for the low-fps zero recoil bug =)

[triple25mm]

I posted in another thread that the mg 42 was around in Stalingrad, but in small numbers as a prototpye, the mg39/41 http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=73263

Originally Posted by Serathis

The 71 round mag for the PPsh will be an upgrade, you won't start with it.

Show me a link of where you found this out^^ please!