Guadal Canal Mission/Map?

[Nestor Makhno]

I think that's what people are saying as well. Any Japanese forum members have any input?

[Redit]

I'm guessing you guys are talking about Guadalcanal, an island in the Solomon Island chain of the South Pacific, and not about a canal called Guadal?

[Nestor Makhno]

Originally Posted by Mosin

bonsai charges

puh-lease

[Redit]

It wouldn't even be accurate, the Japanese only used 'Banzai' tactics at the beginning of the Pacific War, after that they used vast tunnel systems and defence structures all across the islands. Suribachi, Shuri, Wana, Sugar Loaf, Umurbrogol.

[Nestor Makhno]

I think the last ditch attacks at Saipan and some of the ones at Iwo and Okinawa would be categorised as 'Banzai' charges but they were usually desperation tactics and got the chargers absolutely decimated.

[Redit]

Once the defences had been overrun they would use last ditch tactics to avoid dishonour according to Bushido, but it is a far cry from the use of en masse charge tactics as a standard in engagements at the beginning of the war.

[Landrik]

If I want a group of Japanese soldiers running at me at 'every' corner shouting "Banzai", I'll play WaW and rip more of my hair out.

A lot of IJA history has been swept under the rug. Demonized extensively to the point where I am having a hell of a time trying to find ANYTHING on the IJA in the pacific theatre. Both soldiers from the United States Marine Corps and the Imperial Japanese Army deserve to be represented correctly at least for their sakes.

tl;dr - No 'zombie modes' with countless charging Japanese.

[Redit]

Originally Posted by Landrik

Demonized extensively to the point where I am having a hell of a time trying to find ANYTHING on the IJA in the pacific theatre.

I'd use the term 'bastardised.'

Originally Posted by Nestor Makhno

puh-lease

That's not very nice.

[Major Johnson]

Originally Posted by Landrik

A lot of IJA history has been swept under the rug. Demonized extensively to the point where I am having a hell of a time trying to find ANYTHING on the IJA in the pacific theatre.

IMO, The Military History Channel does a pretty good job I think on portraying Japanese thinking and culture of the time period. They have interviews with people who were there, from both sides.

Originally Posted by Landrik

Both soldiers from the United States Marine Corps and the Imperial Japanese Army deserve to be represented correctly at least for their sakes.

In that case lets hope they portray instances like the Bataan Death March correctly as well.

[Landrik]

Originally Posted by Major Johnson

In that case lets hope they portray instances like the Bataan Death March correctly as well.

Or the internment of Japanese-American Civilians? Let's not get into this.

[Major Johnson]

Originally Posted by Landrik

Or the internment of Japanese-American Civilians? Let's not get into this.

Shame on you for even making that comparison.

And you're right let's not get into it.

[SammyBoyFTW]

Originally Posted by major johnson

shame on you for even making that comparison.

And you're right let's not get into it.

stay on topic. The big man says to stay on topic.

[SammyBoyFTW]

Originally Posted by Mosin

While fun for the Americans, I really don't see the idea of an entire game to be devoted toward endless waves of Japanese machine gun fodder being fun for those on the Japanese team. If bonsai charges are implemented, I would think that a Guadalcanal map would be the best place to do it. At least most of the Americans would be shooting bolt actions and the Japanese might stand a decent chance. I don't know, I'm sure the devs could find some way to make it fun

I don't know if it wouldn't be entirely abysmal for the Japanese team.
The Japanese team would have to co-ordinate attacks to make sure that they don't get cut to ribbons. Also, if the American side was equipped with only two fixed heavy M1917 Brownings (possibly with limited ammo) and bolt actions (with the rare sub-machine gun, this could be balanced in an interesting way.

INTRIGUING

[Redit]

After playing RO2, it is not difficult to shoot a machine gunner who is currently spraying you without much trouble even if he is firing out of a small hole. If there are 10 Japanese soldiers in front of this gun, I think if anything the machine gunner would be decimated and overrun very quickly not the other way round. People are not afraid to stick their heads over and easily kill a guy with the perfectly iron sights in this game, despite changing stances, sprinting or being suppressed.

10 Arisakas vs 1 Browning, I put my money on the rifles.

Plus, as soon as this one (or a couple) of machine gunners covering the area are killed the objective is then taken and the defensive value is meaningless.

[SamEEE]

Originally Posted by Redit

10 Arisakas vs 1 Browning, I put my money on the rifles.

Plus, as soon as this one (or a couple) of machine gunners covering the area are killed the objective is then taken and the defensive value is meaningless.

Odds are these blokes were carrying Arisakas. Alligator Creek - Battle of the Tenaru.

[Redit]

Originally Posted by SamEEE

Odds are these blokes were carrying Arisakas. Alligator Creek - Battle of the Tenaru.

I guess reading the part where I am saying that in terms of how the game works a lot would need to be changed in order to make the realistic defensive value of a machine gun position actually worth something must have slipped your gaze, so I've reiterated it for you. No problem.

[Stick Pin]

Seems as if nobody will willingly pick the Japanese side. So will the Japanese be bots on Hero level?

[RicoTx]

Originally Posted by Stick Pin

Seems as if nobody will willingly pick the Japanese side. So will the Japanese be bots on Hero level?

I would pick them just to be the underdog and make things more interesting...

[Sensemann]

Originally Posted by Stick Pin

Seems as if nobody will willingly pick the Japanese side. So will the Japanese be bots on Hero level?

What? I am pretty sure that many players will play the Japanese. I know that I would. How often before could you play John Doe? And how often could you play as a Japanese soldier?

I will play both sides, as I am doing in HOS.