C96 only used by Lufwaffe?

[RedGuardist]

Originally Posted by mandead

They added the C96 in the latest DH patch but it's basically an SMG... yet here it's a slow-firing pistol. What gives?

Maybe it´s not C96 in DH, but M712. Though I haven´t checked it out from DH.


EDIT. Like Zets said...M712 Schnellfeuer.

[mandead]

Ah, okay. I'm fairly certain it is called the C96 Mauser in game, though.

[Welshie]

I think the best tactic with that Nagant revolver is to fire it, until it's empty, then throw it at the enemy while running away....Nice Vid Zets

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by Welshie

I think the best tactic with that Nagant revolver is to fire it, until it's empty, then throw it at the enemy while running away....Nice Vid Zets

Or use its extra accuracy to make your shots count....

[Ermac]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Or use its extra accuracy to make your shots count....

Negligible accuracy advantage. It's slow to reload and fires a round weaker then a 9mm. Everybody's going to choose the TT-33 over it.

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by Ermac

Negligible accuracy advantage. It's slow to reload and fires a round weaker then a 9mm. Everybody's going to choose the TT-33 over it.

Unless you have to be a higher rank, or you like super realism.

[Oldih]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Unless you have to be a higher rank, or you like super realism.

Or style points.

[hockeywarrior]

Originally Posted by Oldih

Or style points.

THIS. I would run around with a revolver just to look badass ... what's not cool about revolvers?

[sampsa]

Originally Posted by hockeywarrior

THIS. I would run around with a revolver just to look badass ... what's not cool about revolvers?

Yes. Besides pistol are hardly worh a " -- ". And of course abilty to intterupt reloading comes to nagant too so it's not that long loading time in a dire situation.

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by sampsa

Yes. Besides pistol are hardly worh a " -- ". And of course abilty to intterupt reloading comes to nagant too so it's not that long loading time in a dire situation.

You have to push out each shell casing individually then insert a new one individually.

[sampsa]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

You have to push out each shell casing individually then insert a new one individually.

Yeah, I know just like famous Colt SAA.

You've cleared the chambers and are currently loading when a German charges at you. You put a bullet your're holding in its place, shoot the guy and continue to reload, relocate or what.

What I tried to achieve with my previous post was to say that it isn't such a pain in the *** to reload that weapon in a pinch since you don't have to reload it completely.

Anyway, if I have to resort to pistol / revolver in current RO I'm usually dead before emptying first magazine. If the enemy is so near that you can use pistol effectively you've done something wrong few moments ago.

[hockeywarrior]

Originally Posted by sampsa

Anyway, if I have to resort to pistol / revolver in current RO I'm usually dead before emptying first magazine. If the enemy is so near that you can use pistol effectively you've done something wrong few moments ago.

Yeah, which means if you ARE going to have to use that pistol, you probably aren't going to have to worry about reloading it anyway. Unless you plan on engaging more than one person ... in which case good luck.

[sampsa]

Originally Posted by hockeywarrior

you probably aren't going to have to worry about reloading it anyway.

Makes me kinda sad when I think how much time doing animations for reloading must have taken.

Well maybe we're just given four bullets or so...

[Peter.Steele]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Or use its extra accuracy to make your shots count....

You do realize that "extra accuracy" in a combat engagement is really negligible, right? At an average combat distance of, say, 5 to 10 yards, any pistol you pick up - even a smoothbore muzzle loader - should be able to put every single round into a 6" diameter circle. Draw a circle of that diameter on your center of mass, and see if any of it hangs outside your body.

"Extra accuracy" counts in competition, not combat. So long as you hit the other guy, and hit him enough times to make him stop doing whatever it is that you want him to stop doing, you're doing pretty good. Double-taps to the forehead where both bullets go through the same hole are for Hollywood and the shooting range, not reality.

[Lt_Kettch]

I personally can't wait for the Nagant only mutator

[PsYcH0_Ch!cKeN]

Originally Posted by mandead

Ah, okay. I'm fairly certain it is called the C96 Mauser in game, though.

Correct, because the M712 Schnellfeuer (which simply means rapid fire) is a type of C96. People frequently refer to the C96 Mauser as a single weapon, but there were actually many different variants with different calibres, different capacities and different sizes, quite a number of which saw use in the German army. The wikipedia entry has quite a long list of them and I suspect that even then it's not complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96

The one seen in HoS is mostly likely a standard 7.63x25mm, 10 round stripper clip loaded variant; i.e. the one that most people think of when they think "C96". It could potentially be the Red 9 (chambered for 9mm) but I'd say it's unlikely.

[sturmfuhrer]

In my opinion I think the Mauser HSc would be a more logical choice as a sidearm for the Germans, especially Heer Officers. Ive rarely, if ever, seen a Mauser C96 in combat photos, whereas many will remember seeing this mauser HSc in many war movies, mostly used by officers in occupied countries such as France.

Sturm