No Luger?

[Nicholas]

Is the Luger going t be in this game? I didn't see anything about it.

If they have it in this game I think it should be more accurate than the Walther but maybe prone to jamming if it gets dirty? The Walther does have the single action trigger though.

In RO1 I always used the Luger if I was a tank commander or squad leader but the Walther if I was anything else.

[Nicholas]

Shouldn't they still have it then? It was still used.

[husbert]

Luger>p38

because

style>accuracy

[The_Emperor]

Let's open the accurate historybook.
The Luger P08 has its origins in Imperial Germany, Bismarck and Wilhelm you know . But very interestingly the P08 was the archsymbol of discipline and order in the Third Reich and therefore the favored sidearm of many Axis officers.
The Walther P38 was introduced during the mid-30s and should replace the P08 as the standard sidearm. This didn't really work out as supply routes were not as good and the end of the war came too soon.
But about sidearms I'm a bit surprised to see the C96 in action as this was a very old style pistol. The production ended in 1936, so before the Great War went for it's second round. Also I believe to remember that very few Wehrmacht units received and kept it but the Waffen SS did.

[Sgt.NightFire]

Just because you did not hear about it, it does not mean it will not be included in the game, the Luger P08 was in service from 1908 till 1945. So it will certainly be in it... I love to use this pistol when i'm a tight spot, it has saved my *ss many times!

[Zetsumei]

I hope we get the option to attach the stock with the c96

[hockeywarrior]

Even though the P38 was made to replace the Luger doesn't mean that it actually did. There were still millions of Lugers being used in all branches of the German military throughout the war. Even today Lugers aren't very rare and are extremely collectible.

It would be silly for RO2 not to have the Luger, especially since it was in RO1.

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by The_Emperor

Let's open the accurate historybook.
The Luger P08 has its origins in Imperial Germany, Bismarck and Wilhelm you know . But very interestingly the P08 was the archsymbol of discipline and order in the Third Reich and therefore the favored sidearm of many Axis officers.
The Walther P38 was introduced during the mid-30s and should replace the P08 as the standard sidearm. This didn't really work out as supply routes were not as good and the end of the war came too soon.
But about sidearms I'm a bit surprised to see the C96 in action as this was a very old style pistol. The production ended in 1936, so before the Great War went for it's second round. Also I believe to remember that very few Wehrmacht units received and kept it but the Waffen SS did.

So more SS units would have used the Luger while more Wehrmacht units would have used the Walther? What of the C96 though?

[Major von Mauser]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

So more SS units would have used the Luger while more Wehrmacht units would have used the Walther? What of the C96 though?

He was talking about the C96.

More SS units used the C96.

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by Major von Mauser

He was talking about the C96.

More SS units used the C96.

So SS = Luger and Mauser

Wehrmacht = Walther?

[Sichartshofen]

Every branch used the Luger and P38. The Wehrmacht and Waffen SS both used the C96.

[KrazyKraut]

Originally Posted by LemoN

The P-38 is more accurate than the Luger IRL.

Care to elaborate?

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by Sichartshofen

Every branch used the Luger and P38. The Wehrmacht and Waffen SS both used the C96.

I imagine the Walther P38 made up the majority of pistols, while the Luger was used by more higher ups and the Mauser was used by more rear gaurd units as surplus? I think the Lufwaffe used some C96's but I'm not sure.

[Nicholas]

Originally Posted by KrazyKraut

Care to elaborate?

Three words.

Single action trigger.

[Peter.Steele]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Three words.

Single action trigger.

Pretty sure the P38 is double / single, not DAO. There's no need for a decocking lever on a DAO pistol.

[Floyd]

Yeah, iirc, the P38 used a lock-breeched double action trigger design.

The Luger was expensive to make. In the proper hands, both are equally accurate (despite the P08's toggle breech.)

However, on style points the LugerP08 > WaltherP38

[Capt.Marion]

You could even toss in the HSc, even though it was primarily used by police and the Kriegsmarine. It did see some use in the hands of the Wehrmacht, though...

[Ermac]

Originally Posted by LemoN

The P-38 is more accurate than the Luger IRL.

I have shot both and the Luger is quite accurate. The P38 is accurate too. Both are combat accurate. The P38 is more reliable though. The Luger is a bit finicky.

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Three words.

Single action trigger.

The P38 is single action after the first shot which is double action.

[Major Liability]

I really hope we see the Luger again, I can't explain why but I always seem to kill easily with the Luger and miss and die with the Walther, even though I know the Walther should technically be better. Maybe it's the sights...

[KrazyKraut]

Originally Posted by LemoN

Personal experience and the design of the mechanism.

Well I have no personal experience on the Luger, though I have on the P1 (the post-war P38). But from what I gathered they are so close that the variations between individual examples of the same gun is more than that between both guns. And among collectors' the Luger is said to be more accurate due to tighter tolerances of the slide and the finer trigger. That is the gun's own accuracy: The accuracy achieved by your average shooter is supposed to be even better with the Luger due to the comfortable grip position absorbing more of the recoil.