Steam (!) Why?

[trillex]

Originally Posted by brew master

I dont know what RO is? I never heard of it till a quick easy steam popup informed me of a new game coming out. I highly doubt that this game will hold a prayer to DOD source and someone please tell me I am right!!!!!????

I think you are wrong but that's a matter of opinion. I loved Day of Defeat but I absolutely disliked how they seem to have slaughtered the very gameplay in DoD: S. So I went back to RO and have much more fun than I will have in DoD: S.

But you can't really compare the 2, except they are both based in WW2. RO is semi-realism - DoD: S is arcadeish.

And please stop offending people who are younger than you are. Some are mature and some are not. I feel like reporting you, just because you are being hostile instead of putting a point out.

[Switchblade]

C,mon guys, please stay on topic and don't be so offensive to each other.

[radix]

Originally Posted by lasrer

... for a normal user they dont need to worry. Just run windows firewall (works like a charm) and never buy any anti-virus ***** never run any anti spyware ***** just update your windows with the automatic updater and you will have no problem!
....

you really know what are you speaking.. aren't you ?

[/linuX/gitano]

Gawd...

Originally Posted by brew master

[...]
I am not against linux at all but unless you want to play some of the best games in the world you 1. either better learn some code to rewrite the game or 2. figure out a duel boot system. I cant believe that people actually sit around and look for just games that come out for that operating system. YOU ARE MISSING SO MUCH!
[...]

Yeah, please, rewrite some games for me, will you?
Seems like its so damn easy and of course the sourcecode is open for everybody...u dont have a bit of an idea of what you're talking about, eh?

Anyway, yeah, believe it or not, there a re quite a lot of people out there who dont need to buy every new colorful ***** just because its new and colorful (/me thinks about mohpa, cod2 and whatnot). And i guess these people arent really missing much

No, and neither wont these people "duel boot" because, yeah, its a duel indeed to run a totally insecure, undocumented OS, when u have the opportunity to run Linux or OS-X/ BSD instead.
And on the other hand, why should they, watching at the facts that 3D games run perfectly with OpenGL and ALSA/ oss?
Whatever, i think i'm just wasting my words in this case...

Originally Posted by lasrer

[...]
Why dont you all linux lovers understand that releasing RO on steam is the best thing they can do!
[...]

Hey, dude, to make something clear...as you might have noticed almost EVERY Linux-user here absolutely understands the step Tripwire made towards Valve's Steam .

Its a great chance for them indeed to reach a huge audience and we all hope they'll earn now what they have really deserved over the years.

But besides all that understanding, dont u guys see that some of us maybe might be a bit disappointed because we wont be able to play our favorite game anymore? And just because a company like Valve doesnt seem to give a f*ck about Linux players?
I'm not giving up hope totally, maybe this is the chance that they'll do a Steam Unix client soon, but i hardly doubt it...i mean, they havent get managed that for years, thousands of users have been asking for that, but they dont seem to care much about their customers...

Whatever, please understand, NOONE of us is offending Tripwire for their steps and noone of us is unthankful, either.
We enjoyed RO so much over the years, a big THANKS for the fun, Tripwire!

greetz,
gitano

[brew master]

1st of all don't downtalk ppl who aren't 18 yet... especially if you are older than that. Maybe you're the one needing to play sims. 2nd somehow i don't feel like asking others to use their credit card.[/quote]

ADULTS set rules in this country. KIDS dont. KIDS DONT DRINK. KIDS SHOULD NOT BLOW HOLES IN PEOPLE'S BODY. There will be a time when kids will not be able to get these game till they are of age.

I was not putting anyone down. I was stating facts and telling your community MY OPINIONS on steam. If you do not want to join our community then dont... I dont care.

For those of you crying about Credit Cards. (Germans) LOL. Study the system before you knock it. Or have an American do it for ya.

http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-...i=&p_topview=1


Buy it here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832130204

[breadtruck]

Originally Posted by brew master

ADULTS set rules in this country. KIDS dont. KIDS DONT DRINK. KIDS SHOULD NOT BLOW HOLES IN PEOPLE'S BODY.

lol, truth

[[TW]schneidzekk]

Hmm and how exactly does that link help people without CCs?

[brew master]

Newegg is the best. Even tho that product is not ready to sell yet it will be soon. There are other places to buy but Newegg is the best.

This is how it helps people without CC's

http://www.newegg.com/CustomerServic...167#xdetail167

[[TW]schneidzekk]

Then you know more than the team.

[TheConquerorWorm]

http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-...i=&p_topview=1

"Please, run services for our user on your OS, but you may not use our services on your OS."
Seems they didn't mind porting the dedicated server to linux (which I bet is 10x more complicated than Steam itself).

It's kind of double-moral.

//TCW

[SheepDip]

They only did that because everyone knows linux servers are more reliable/stable

Im not saying the client side use is any worse, I think valve are being very silly in that respect

[TheConquerorWorm]

Of course a Linux server is more stable than Windows Server 2003. But it's very "Take, but not give", to port the server and use the OS for all it's worth, providing Valve customers with the option of getting reliable servers running on Linux, at the same time they are turning the back to the *nix community by not porting Steam there.

[Case]

Originally Posted by TheConquerorWorm

http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-...i=&p_topview=1

"Please, run services for our user on your OS, but you may not use our services on your OS."

It's kind of double-moral.

//TCW

And that's been the case with game companies for a long time. They realize that a lot of hosting providers run a lot of linux computers so they make a product for the largest segment of the market: clients==windows and servers==linux. I'm a linux diehard and have hated this practice for a long time, but I think the fact is that it's relatively easy to code a server for multiple OS's while porting over a lot of graphics code is a different matter. In my mind the number 1 mistake developers make is using DirectX instead of OpenGL. OpenGL is portable and runs on windows, linux, mac osx, most other UNIX variants (AIX, Irix, Solaris, HPUX...), BSD and even VMS. DirectX runs on one platform. I realize that there are features of DirectX that make it attractive but the narrow portability of the code outweighs those features in my mind. I've coded quite a few things using OpenGL and love the amount of time it takes to port to Windows from linux...however long the compiler takes.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Case:

But Steam isn't using DirectX.... If they ported Steam over there, they could easily make Half-Life 1 Linux compatible for starters and RO would be even easier for us to get

//TCS

[Case]

Originally Posted by TheConquerorWorm

Case:

But Steam isn't using DirectX.... If they ported Steam over there, they could easily make Half-Life 1 Linux compatible for starters and RO would be even easier for us to get

//TCS

I quoted your original comment about "serve our games on your OS but we won't give you a client" because my comments were in response to that statement.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Originally Posted by Case

I quoted your original comment about "serve our games on your OS but we won't give you a client" because my comments were in response to that statement.

Ah. I'm sorry about that.

Another idea... We can try to make Microsoft port DirectX to *nix

/TCW

[KrazyKraut]

Originally Posted by brew master

ADULTS set rules in this country. KIDS dont. KIDS DONT DRINK. KIDS SHOULD NOT BLOW HOLES IN PEOPLE'S BODY. There will be a time when kids will not be able to get these game till they are of age.

I was not putting anyone down. I was stating facts and telling your community MY OPINIONS on steam. If you do not want to join our community then dont... I dont care.

For those of you crying about Credit Cards. (Germans) LOL. Study the system before you knock it. Or have an American do it for ya.

http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-...i=&p_topview=1


Buy it here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832130204

Have a German explain something to you:

Tripwire isn't Valve. Yes, you can buy Valve games in retail stores, but not RO:Ostfront 41-45, because it is not a Valve product. You can only buy RO:Ostfront via Steam.

KIDS SHOULD NOT BLOW HOLES IN PEOPLE'S BODY

ADULTS SHOULDN'T BLOW HOLES IN PEOPLES BODIES EITHER. That put aside, a lot of kids play *your* community's DoD:S and CS:S, it's not your obligation to judge who may or may not play a certain game.

[brew master]

I am glad it is not my obligation to judge people. I wouldnt want that job anyway. blowing holes in people is bad YES, but sometimes ADULTS have to! America was not built without having a few holes blown in someone. We do not use 13 yr old boys or girls to arm our country.

I run a server my self and if i could tell the person was young he would be banned.

I am really confused about the RO, Valve (steam) crap you are talking about. Isnt this whole post about your game going to valve???????????? DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE. If your game is sold by valve it probably will be available to buy other places like the current steam programs.???????? They are the same companies. Comeon people do some research before you talk.

I do like sauerkraut tho Thanks for that

Brew

[/linuX/gitano]

Hrm. Whom is he talking to ?

/me wonders...

[SasQuatch]

Brew, this whole post is about Tripwire announcing their stand alone game is going to be distributed through Steam.

Guys, relax please, i think you are just having a misunderstanding here, and Brew, welcome to our forums.