USE a BETA # TAG!

[Divinehammer]

New mappers please use a beta 1 tag on your new map. It just makes life easier. Unless it is a cheeseball map and you arent going to make anymore betas. Use a beta tag. That way when you get to Final you just remove the beta part and there you go and it looks official too without the big "final" on the end. This will just help eliminate some of the confusion all around.

[Mike_Nomad]

Originally Posted by Divinehammer

New mappers please use a beta 1 tag on your new map. It just makes life easier. Unless it is a cheeseball map and you arent going to make anymore betas I guess use a beta tag. That way when you get to Final you just remove the beta part and there you go and it looks official too without the big "final" on the end. This will just help eliminate some of the confusion all around.

Yes, please do this; As in RO-Mapname_B1

[sandorski]

Yes: Beta Map= RO-something-beta
Final Map= RO-something

[xxstalker24xx]

Why cant people do it the way i have done it becuase it keeps everything together neat and tidy and makes it easier to get the thread instead of looking through loads of one maps multiple threads. My way of doing it is to have the main thread for Beta 1.0and all small updates come after that, but then if theirs a very large update then it jumps to Beta 2.0.

For example

First thread
RO-Jumpypumpy_Beta_v1.0
v1.1
v1.2
etc

Big changes/update new thread
RO-Jumpypumpy_Beta_v2.0
v2.1
v2.2
etc

Yes this means a bit of editing but makes it so we don't have millions of threads of the same map, this is also the way normal and pro developers do their updating.

[sandorski]

Originally Posted by xxstalker24xx

Why cant people do it the way i have done it becuase it keeps everything together neat and tidy and makes it easier to get the thread instead of looking through loads of one maps multiple threads. My way of doing it is to have the main thread for Beta 1.0and all small updates come after that, but then if theirs a very large update then it jumps to Beta 2.0.

For example

First thread
RO-Jumpypumpy_Beta_v1.0
v1.1
v1.2
etc

Big changes/update new thread
RO-Jumpypumpy_Beta_v2.0
v2.1
v2.2
etc

Yes this means a bit of editing but makes it so we don't have millions of threads of the same map, this is also the way normal and pro developers do their updating.

That works too, but I think the ultimate point is that the Beta Maps should be clearly marked as Beta and differentiated from each version and that the completed Map should just be the Map name.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

And please leave out all periods ( . ) in the map name. Only one should be the one directly before the file extension please....

[Zetsumei]

Spaces and points in map names are a no no :P

And plz make the first letter of your map capital aswell or it wont be alphabetically ordered in the maplist.

RO-Blablabla_B1_2.rom

not

RO-blablabla B1.2.rom

and if you update any file whatsoever plz give it a new name. different packages with thesame name = hell.

[PUTZ]

there are already too many...like those DAMNED ROHudMut packages...there must be 10 different versions out there.

Maybe agree to a standard one?

[xxstalker24xx]

oops yep dont put the ( . ) in

[Mike_Nomad]

Originally Posted by Divinehammer

New mappers please use a beta 1 tag on your new map. It just makes life easier. Unless it is a cheeseball map and you arent going to make anymore betas I guess use a beta tag. That way when you get to Final you just remove the beta part and there you go and it looks official too without the big "final" on the end. This will just help eliminate some of the confusion all around.

I repeat;

Yes, please do this;

• RO-Mapname_B1 = Beta 1
• RO-Mapname_B2 = Beta 2
• RO-Mapname_B3 = Beta 3
• RO-Mapname_B4 = Beta 4
• RO-Mapname_B5 = Beta 5
• RO-Mapname_B6 = Beta 6 and so forth until done
• RO-Mapname = FINAL VERSION

I trust this is easy enough to cope with and understand...

[xxstalker24xx]

It would make more sense to use my format because that one above just takes over the Beta part, we don’t want one map to have Betas all over the first page just for minor changes

[Divinehammer]

@stalker24 I dont understand what you mean here

Mike_Nomads example is a good standard with the addition of no "." in the name and no spaces. Additionally if you make a zip or rar package for your map leave the . and spaces out of those as well.Zetsuemi's point about capitalizing is also very Valid. Additionally there is really no real sense to have Mapname_Beta1a or Mapname_beta2fixC or whatever. Crap just make a new beta and call it good no one cares about the numbers and higher numbers just means a new hopefully better version.
I guess those still need to be in there as some servers like to fix a small part of a beta and just play it instead of the next beta that comes out. So maybe we need those in there or just a beta2_1 beta2_2 for maps that fit that mold. Thoughts on this?

[Stanislav]

I agree with Mike on the naming plan. It would be a lot eaiser for server admins if everyone used the same uniform naming structure. It would also benefit the people that play the maps.

Just my thoughts.

[ViViD]

I alwasys use _B1 _B2 i won't be changing from this

[Zetsumei]

Originally Posted by PUTZ

there are already too many...like those DAMNED ROHudMut packages...there must be 10 different versions out there.

Maybe agree to a standard one?

there are only 3 versions actually. But the creator refused to put version names in the mutator and actually *****ed at people that did put version names in. In the end nobody can play on a server running a different version of teh rohud package mutator than they themselves have got.

[xxstalker24xx]

Originally Posted by Divinehammer

@stalker24 I dont understand what you mean here

Mike_Nomads example is a good standard with the addition of no "." in the name and no spaces. Additionally if you make a zip or rar package for your map leave the . and spaces out of those as well.Zetsuemi's point about capitalizing is also very Valid. Additionally there is really no real sense to have Mapname_Beta1a or Mapname_beta2fixC or whatever. Crap just make a new beta and call it good no one cares about the numbers and higher numbers just means a new hopefully better version.
I guess those still need to be in there as some servers like to fix a small part of a beta and just play it instead of the next beta that comes out. So maybe we need those in there or just a beta2_1 beta2_2 for maps that fit that mold. Thoughts on this?

I dont know why you dont understand it, all iam saying is that having it the way i have done it will make less threads of that one map. When my format would use maybe two threads the other way would use loads swarming this beta area with loads of betas of one map. There is no need to have so many betas, people do a new beta thread after a small change when it should rly be when there are large changes. But maybe thats too much of a difficult way of doing it for some of you, when in fact its simpler and more logical then the beta_2, beta_3, etc way

[Divinehammer]

Originally Posted by xxstalker24xx

I dont know why you dont understand it, all iam saying is that having it the way i have done it will make less threads of that one map. When my format would use maybe two threads the other way would use loads swarming this beta area with loads of betas of one map. There is no need to have so many betas, people do a new beta thread after a small change when it should rly be when there are large changes. But maybe thats too much of a difficult way of doing it for some of you, when in fact its simpler and more logical then the beta_2, beta_3, etc way

Okay I see now I did not understand that you were talking about the forum pages. I agree Mapname-Beta thread for a new map should just have edits for new betas put in the first post. Maybe place hold the 2nd post spot for future updates. See you are talking about threads where we are talking about the actual naming conventions of the Rom file. No worries though it works in here as well What you are stating should just be common sense but I havent really looked into it.

@ Vivid
Dont change, this is just and idea and a suggestion. Mostly I just started this discussion because two maps just came out with no tags at all. I was playing a map the other day with no B tags and it still has betas coming out. I thought I was playing the final but I wasnt. So this was more for new mappers and how little things can make life easier for all.