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Old 02-06-2007, 08:58 AM
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:09 AM
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All that I could make out from the commentary was that he likes Pantera .
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:12 AM
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All that I could make out from the commentary was that he likes Pantera .
hehe yea can you speak Russian but their good clips
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:34 AM
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Thanks stiner for sharing. Especially the Russian version.
The thing that bugged me - the guy told that SU-100 gun could take out King Tiger from 1.5 km, from any position..
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Thanks stiner for sharing. Especially the Russian version.
The thing that bugged me - the guy told that SU-100 gun could take out King Tiger from 1.5 km, from any position..
No the king tiger was never kiiled from the front in battle, the side was but a T34 /85 can kill a king tiger from the side. also i have 5 books on king tigers and they all say. anyway i am happy you like it the su100 is very low and sneaky it be good if they can get it in the game all we need is some late war tanks maps so we can blow each other to bits
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Thanks stiner for sharing. Especially the Russian version.
The thing that bugged me - the guy told that SU-100 gun could take out King Tiger from 1.5 km, from any position..
Only postwar shells .

SU-100 it is Jagdpanther for poor guy .

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Only postwar shells .

Jagdpanther for poor guy .
yea can you speak Russian i like to know what that man said about the panther
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Gj Karl
Would love to see it in game but for now I'd rather see -122 OR -152 as they entered service earlier - though I appreciate these are assault guns rather than tank destroyers and less effective against armour. Still, I imagine they could still do damage to tigers, and would be good for Orel for example.
Nevertheless very impressive machine and video- good find.
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yea , can you speak Russian ,i like to know what that man said about the panther
I have correctly put commas? You wish to know that the speaks announcer ? There is almost nothing interesting. They had many money to roll out the tank. They did not have not enough time to read books.

Tiger-2 .

You saw books Mihail Svirin ? I am not assured that translated . To the old man asked a question about the Tiger-2. He has put out here it. http://forum.sudden-strike.ru/showth...t=6438&page=66







The left column penetrate .
The right column notpenetrate .

Types of shells are unknown. There was a few experimental samples.

Conditions.

Penetrate are not considered in case of hit in edge . In weld seam. In weak zones. Double hit .

Conclusions.

1.The armur has bad quality.
2.We cannot penetrate it. This too big . Our shells are inefficient.
3. Mass-production shell can penetrate edge of the armur . Weld seam . Weak zones .


To make a hole in the Tiger-2 . Could, a Sherman-Firefly, the American AT 90mm self-propelled guns. Using end-war subcaliber shells. In any plase . How many long ???

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:33 PM
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There is a working SU-100 at Poteau musuem in Belgium. I think it is the only example known to still run. It is just outside of St Vith in the ardennes. here is the link: www.musuem-poteau44.be
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:35 PM
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the link was bad this one should work: http://www.museum-poteau44.be/
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Gj Karl
Would love to see it in game but for now I'd rather see -122 OR -152 as they entered service earlier - though I appreciate these are assault guns rather than tank destroyers and less effective against armour. Still, I imagine they could still do damage to tigers, and would be good for Orel for example.
Nevertheless very impressive machine and video- good find.
yea the su152 only gets 2 shots every min it has a long reload time but the su100 fires a lot faster and i am lucky i have been inside the real su100 at the musuem they left the drivers hatch open for me also you can see the size of the gun here on the su152, no wounder it takes so long to load
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I have correctly put commas? You wish to know that the speaks announcer ? There is almost nothing interesting. They had many money to roll out the tank. They did not have not enough time to read books.

Tiger-2 .

You saw books Mihail Svirin ? I am not assured that translated . To the old man asked a question about the Tiger-2. He has put out here it. http://forum.sudden-strike.ru/showth...t=6438&page=66







The left column penetrate .
The right column notpenetrate .

Types of shells are unknown. There was a few experimental samples.

Conditions.

Penetrate are not considered in case of hit in edge . In weld seam. In weak zones. Double hit .

Conclusions.

1.The armur has bad quality.
2.We cannot penetrate it. This too big . Our shells are inefficient.
3. Mass-production shell can penetrate edge of the armur . Weld seam . Weak zones .


To make a hole in the Tiger-2 . Could, a Sherman-Firefly, the American AT 90mm self-propelled guns. Using end-war subcaliber shells. In any plase . How many long ???
yea good find, thanks for the info sorry for my bad Grammer
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SU-152 used two piece ammunition hence the slow reload time. The SU-100 used brass shells and I believe its gun was based on a naval design which they decided to use for this SP since it was available. The production numbers for this vehicle were low (1000?), I dont think it was particularly succesfull and the heavy tube and mantle caused early suspension failure. I think the Soviets/WarPact used these in class B units all the way into the late 50's/early 60's.
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SU-152 used two piece ammunition hence the slow reload time. The SU-100 used brass shells and I believe its gun was based on a naval design which they decided to use for this SP since it was available. The production numbers for this vehicle were low (1000?), I dont think it was particularly succesfull and the heavy tube and mantle caused early suspension failure. I think the Soviets/WarPact used these in class B units all the way into the late 50's/early 60's.
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