Ipod is annoying

[SnotRocket]

Originally Posted by Fu. Svedberg

I have a iPod mini and a iPod nano right now would never trade them for any othe mp3 player and I see iTunes as a selling point for iPod it's straigh forward it's unbeatable in music management (I just wish Rythmbox was as good or that Apple releases iTunes for Linux).

I'm not sure that I'd agree with you on that one Sved. Now I know you've used Linux for MUCH longer than I have, so I'm not discrediting your linux-app experience. Rythmbox is just ugly, with every customized GTK I've seen. That being said, I prefer some linux music apps much more than iTunes. AmaroK and Songbird are just amazing.

And as far as windows goes, MusicMonkey is much better than iTunes. iTunes has just always been so slow for me, ****ing up way too many system resources and being slow to respond to any user input.

[Colt .45 killer]

its not apple, and it works with a pc , thats what makes a zen popular

[SheepDip]

It's been 4 months since I last posted in this thread.

I'm still waiting for my iPod to die, nearing 4 years old this summer (in my eyes making it hands down the most impressive portable audio hardware on the planet)

[Fu. Svedberg]

Originally Posted by SnotRocket

I'm not sure that I'd agree with you on that one Sved. Now I know you've used Linux for MUCH longer than I have, so I'm not discrediting your linux-app experience. Rythmbox is just ugly, with every customized GTK I've seen. That being said, I prefer some linux music apps much more than iTunes. AmaroK and Songbird are just amazing.

And as far as windows goes, MusicMonkey is much better than iTunes. iTunes has just always been so slow for me, ****ing up way too many system resources and being slow to respond to any user input.

I think this actually comes down to a matter of personal taste.

But here is my opinion.

AmaroK is to messy. Even if has a **** load of functions, any function you can think of you wanting + about 10 extra functions for each function you actually wanted it simply isn't as straight forward and pedagogic as I would like. Now I have to say I only gave it a couple of quick runs before deciding I didn't like it and reverted back to Rythmbox.

As you maybe figured out I prefered Rythmbox out of the stock music management programs but for me it lacks in functionallity of editing the ID3 tags and the function that is a must for a music management program IMO, volume normalising and volume adjusting of files. (I hate it when you put on random from your media liberary having to turn up the volume for one song and when it jumps to the next you almost blow out the windows and wake up your neighbours 3 blocks away because the first track was recorded with a unusually low rec volume while the second song was recorded with a unusually high rec volume. This is also extreamly painful when using headphones).

For linux I have also tried a couple of other programs but they just didn't do it for me.

Back to the iPod:

As a mini and nano user (I have never wanted to have a gazillion GB just enough so I can carry a fairly large amount of music with me, niether do I feel any need for video functionallity I use a mp3 player strictly for playing mp3s (or other compressed music formats (lossless is a scam I dare you, you won't hear the difference between lossless and mp3 compressed with either VBR256 or a proper 192kbps in a blind test))).

I don't understand the argument about it being more expensive then equvivalent mp3 players of other brands. This might be effected by where in the world you live but i.e. a 4GB nano costs about the same as a 4GB mp3 player of other brands actually I think as of recently it is even a bit cheaper. (and up to fairly recently it was the only flash ram player that had a memory size of 4 GB that you could buy here). A 8 GB nano costs about...oh well so far I haven't seen any other 8 GB flash ram mp3 players on sale here so nevermind.
What you could argue is it's battery life time which could be a bit longer but considering the size of the nano I can live with it.

Same goes for the iPod mini back in the days it wasn't at all more expensive the other HD players of the same size (both material and storage) at the time and also all comparison tests of the players that where released concluded it had the best audio quality (even if some noted that a better EQ function would be nice). The mini had to step down when the Rio Carbon was released mainly because of the Carbons superior battery lifetime (which made it a tad bigger then the mini but understandable since the battery was bigger). Only issue with the carbon was some static using some types of earphones that had exposed metal at the base of the plug this was no big issue tho and easly fixed with a small piece of plastic tape.

This price argument is also widley used for not buying a Mac which I also don't understand. Since Appel switched to Intel CPUs it's really easy to compare the two and when compared to pre assembeled PCs (Dell, HP, Packard Bell etc.) they are not at all more expensive for the same spec. If I would assemble my own PC with the same spec. as some Mac I have seen that I can cut the price with somewhere €30-50 which isn't that much compared to what I would pay for such a system. Further if I want a "notthemostbadasssystemintheworld" I find a Mac mini or iMac far supperior and space saving due to the slim design (and sound level) of those systems.

But I must underline that these price arguments might not be valid everywhere and may be very much effected depending on which country you live in.

The only thing that truly ****s with iPod are the standard earphones that come with the iPod.
Not only are they fugly they also have a really craptastic sound and I can't understand that so many people are using them. My still lay in the box (and in the nano box the little bag they come with is still unopened). Now I still use microplug earphones but investing a buck in a couple of Pioneer microplug won't make you disappointed (unless the only thing you look for is bass then you will be disappointed) have a really clear and vibrant sound evenly distrobuted over the entire soundspectrum.

[Nimsky]

Originally Posted by Grobut

I usually welcome counter opinions, as they make conversation alot more interesting, but that was just.. pointless..

I say it's a good product, you say it's not. I actually have one and I'm happy with it, so I'd say I'm a bit more credible than you are in this case. Considering most of what you wrote in that post is far from the truth, writing a huge post in response to it would be a waste of time.

I could take the piss out on the Creative devices, but I won't. After all, I'm sure those are great devices as well.

The prizes of the Apple / Creative MP3 players are more or less the same, by the way.

[Grobut]

Originally Posted by Nimsky

I say it's a good product, you say it's not. I actually have one and I'm happy with it, so I'd say I'm a bit more credible than you are in this case. Considering most of what you wrote in that post is far from the truth, writing a huge post in response to it would be a waste of time.

I could take the piss out on the Creative devices, but I won't. After all, I'm sure those are great devices as well.

The prizes of the Apple / Creative MP3 players are more or less the same, by the way.

I haven't said it is a bad product, it works, the build quality is good, its not "bad", its just too expensive (here atleast), comes with too little extras for its price, and is hampered by less than optimal PC support and propriatary design and feature desitions, the relianse on iTunes beeing one of the major problems for me, and it is my opinion that thease problems make it a bad purchase compared to what the competition has to offer (and cheaper, or roughly same prize but with more extras and features).

Also, mate.. i live in Denmark, not the stoneage, its not like i haven't delt with an iPod before, freinds of mine own one, and before i got an MP3 player of my own i have borrowed one on a few occations, i am not totally out of the loop here.. i have actually touched one of the critters before.

Its ok by me that you are happy with your pod, but honestly, i doubt you have really researched and compared whats out there and the pro's and con's of the lot, i think this sentance of yours shows that in abundance:

"I could take the piss out on the Creative devices, but I won't. After all, I'm sure those are great devices as well."

This is not about "taking the piss" or bashing, its about MP3 players, i am no fanboy, i buy whats best for the money and my needs, and the pod absolutely failed to be a worthy competitor for the contence of my wallet, it was simply outclassed by better offers, in disk space, price, features, connectivity (pc support, freedom of use), bundled extras (such as an AC adaptor, good headphones..), thats a no brainer to me, the list of Pro's and Con's just aren't in favour of the pod, infact it didn't make my top 10 of models i was interested in, and all whilst beeing one of the most expensive on the list... thats a bad purchase in my book!

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Macs are the Abercrombie & Fitch of the computer industry.

[Cuddles]

Insane.

iGrill!!!!!!

Whyat will they think of next?

[Dav1d]

Originally Posted by Cuddles

Insane.

iGrill!!!!!!

Whyat will they think of next?

Oh man! This will enhance my digital lifestyle!

[Reddog]

Hey I have a question for all you iRiver users, my sistser just picked up a H10 and while it is definitely a nice player in build and functionality I was wondering is there any way to put music on it without having to sync it to media player and thus keep all your music on your PC as well?

Seems kind of annoying that you can only sync it with exactly whats in your media player library meaning that you have to waste a huge amoutn of space on your HDD.

I guess in this aspect Creative Media Source owns it because you just rip discs straight onto the players library.

[Capt.Marion]

my ipod holds music, maybe a few pics of my truck or my friend's horses, and maybe some misc files... that's it. Its a 60 gb vid, yet I don't watch videos on it...

[KIPPO]

Mediacoder will convert most formats
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/