Box Art (Merged Threads)

[Sichartshofen]

Felix Ostheim made this. Not me.

Replace the hakenkreuz with a balkenkreuz or eisernes kreuz and there you go. Both sides are represented without making it look like another "kill the Germans" game.

[MadMax]

I would say the bold games cover would probably sell better. It has brighter coulours and it is therefore easier recognized by the eyes of people watching the stores.

I don't think it maters if it's ugly or not. It's only necessary that people take a loock on it. Then maybe they look on the back cover and see awesome screenshots and whatever...(only estimation ???) and are conviced to buy it.

[EvilHobo]

Hmm, I'm surprised the devs/moderators have allowed this thread to live.
Anyway:

My box art is something of a concept design, I.E., how it should look, not just take what is provided and make use of it. However, the one in the poll is a combination of both work by:

http://www.redorchestragame.com/forum/member.php?u=885 and



myself.



Now, as I said, concept. By no means -- if this poll shows a heavy leaning toward the darker box -- do I stress the usage of the exact image, just the layout and style. After all, Tripwire and/or Bold are/is comprised of professional graphic artists who could take our ideas and refine them. However, the existing 'final' box I do not feel is an accurate representation of RO, despite my not having played the game, the Germans standing out in the open firing SMGs just doesn't seem very intelligent, or, for that matter, realistic.

[Pyros777]

Like any other piece of art, the picture on the box is open to interpretation.

While you (Kruger) feel is depicts a game that is aimed primarily at killing germans, some may see the german firing and think it is about killing russians.

I think the typical gamer would take more offense to the swastika on the box as opposed to the hammer and sickle. The logic behind that is that society in general frowns upon nazi party symbols far more than communist party symbols, however negativley charged they both may be.

Kruger your box art may be more accurate in terms of who is fighting who, but since we do live in a society, it just would not make it to shelves.

Not to say it wasnt a good design though. The picture of the german soldier matches the russian one rather well.

[CamperJoe]

Originally Posted by Krüger

Replace the hakenkreuz with a balkenkreuz or eisernes kreuz and there you go. Both sides are represented without making it look like another "kill the Germans" game.

Hey! thats actually pretty good.

[Moz]

I think the darker design conveys a more serious and mature take on the subject, compared to plaster crap thats the painted one.

It is called "RED ORCHESTRA" so the lack of germans on a cover wouldn't be that bad. Don't forget there is still an inside of the box, and even a possible inside cover where all this painted action could go.

Imagine picking up that dark box wondering what it is, looking very serious, and opening the front cover to see all the action etc.

WIN - WIN

[[CoFR]BooBoo]

The darker box is more moody. It draws my eye better than the Bold design. What's especially eye catching is the red lettering. It just stands out.

[Sichartshofen]

Originally Posted by Pyros777

Like any other piece of art, the picture on the box is open to interpretation.

While you (Kruger) feel is depicts a game that is aimed primarily at killing germans, some may see the german firing and think it is about killing russians.

I think the typical gamer would take more offense to the swastika on the box as opposed to the hammer and sickle. The logic behind that is that society in general frowns upon nazi party symbols far more than communist party symbols, however negativley charged they both may be.

Kruger your box art may be more accurate in terms of who is fighting who, but since we do live in a society, it just would not make it to shelves.

Not to say it wasnt a good design though. The picture of the german soldier matches the russian one rather well.

That's why I said you can replace the hakenkreuz with something else.

[daschewy]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9...boxart18st.jpg

I like that one, it shows both what the game looks like and has a nice contrast.

[Stevenson]

Originally Posted by EvilHobo

However, the existing 'final' box I do not feel is an accurate representation of RO

Your also, as your stated, not a professional. So what's the difference, the other thread pointed out that there would be no community input on this matter so drop it... so no matter how much you hate it, ***** about it, make your own cover... It's not gonna change crap.

[Pyros777]

Originally Posted by Krüger

That's why I said you can replace the hakenkreuz with something else.

oh hah shows my knowledge of ww2 terminology. :P

[TheBeagle]

Well, I'm not going to vote on the poll as I feel it serves no purpose, really. I think we should be appreciative of that fact we have a boxed version and therefore box art to even ***** about.

I agree it could have been better but maybe the dev team either 1. Liked it or 2. Had to make a compromise or probably both.

I 'm sure no one here buys a videogame based on how pretty the box looks. In fact, usually the cooler the box looks the suckier the game is.

I've been at stores and have had a box's art catch my eye and been like "Wow, that looks cool!" Then when I read the back of box and look at the screenshots I'm like "WTF? This sucks ***. How dare they try to decieve me!" And then I contemptously throw the box down, and usually not where I found it.


I mean look at those COD boxes, the art sucks and they still sold well.

For that reason I think, I would've liked the minimalist black box better because I don't think box art is that important and also it's a bit intrigueing. But I do like the Russian soldier,with the cool looking helmet which they got down very well.

Then again, the all black would've reminded me of the Metallica 'Black' album, which sucked balls. And don't try to argue with me here. It sucked. Period.

[Fox]

Why you guys creating these topics? It will not change anything, the box is allready done and ready (i hope so) and they will not change it because of some bunch of people on the forum saying that they do not like it. Anyway, whats the difference? You'r buying it for box or game ? Of course it could be better... but you can't change anything at the moment. Maybe at next release (ROOTS 2? ), then you can show them your box, but not now when the game is just going to be released.

[Pyros777]

Originally Posted by TheBeagle

Then again, the all black would've reminded me of the Metallica 'Black' album, which sucked balls. And don't try to argue with me here. It sucked. Period.

NO WAY I LOVED THAT ALBUM!


Anyway, good post beagle. I suppose its just fun for some to get the creative juices flowing and show everyone else what they would have liked to box to look like.

In the end, RO ROCKS, and after the release we'll look back at this thread and ask ourselves why anybody even cared about the box.

[SgtH3nry3]

Originally Posted by MadMax

I would say the bold games cover would probably sell better. It has brighter coulours and it is therefore easier recognized by the eyes of people watching the stores.

I don't think it maters if it's ugly or not. It's only necessary that people take a loock on it. Then maybe they look on the back cover and see awesome screenshots and whatever...(only estimation ???) and are conviced to buy it.

In a recent Dutch research by the Technological Univerisity of Delft, people often prefer darker product packaging, brighter colours make people generally creating prejudges in their minds.

IMO Bold Games done it completely wrong, alot of people will think it's a Russian-biased game. Which is probably the last thing they want.
And they totally forget the R-in-the-O logo, without it, it isn't Red Orchestra to alot of RO vets...

It needs to be fixed, but as long as Ostfront doesn't went gold I think those amateurs of Destineers will reconsider it...

[TheBeagle]

Originally Posted by SgtH3nry3

How dare you to discrimate us as nazi's!

Nazi discussion for teh close!!1!

I agree. Many Nazis, white supremists, etc. have substantial amounts of disposible income which they use to buy expensive 3rd Reich memorabilia, publish leaflets, etc. I think it only makes financial sense to not alianate them.

On a serious note:

Legovski, while I don't necessarily disagree with you, why do you assume depicting automatically implies supporting/glorifying?

[Pycckuu]

Eh, Evil Hobo's box is the best one so far, I think. Its not flashy, and gets the point across. Bold Games box is not as bad as most of you make it out to be, but I do think the community one would work much better with RO.

[Amerikaner]

Thats my favorite. Its alluring, shows off awesome graphics, and makes you want to turn it over and see the back.

[daschewy]

where did you all get that screen shot from?

[TheBeagle]

Originally Posted by Pyros777

NO WAY I LOVED THAT ALBUM!

I'll give you that 'Nothing Else Matters' and 'Unforgiven' were good songs. Everything else was crap. That album marked the beggining of their decline into their little identity crisis, 'let's compete with Grunge to sell more albums' crap. '..And Justice for All' was the last good real Metallica album. Period.