Melee suggestion

[saprize]

Hi, i am very annoyed atm while writing so bare with me...


PLEASE tripwire for the love of god, please do something about melee ing in this game so you have a chance to re counter the hit or the knife like in cod or bf or something, its ridiculous being 1 shotted on 1 hit to your body...... Please! Just do something so the player getting melee d can have a bloody chance of f ing defending himself!

You run into a house and right on the corner an enemy comes and 1 shots you with a melee. I mean how f ing ridiculous doesn't that sound???? Please tripwire everything in this game i love but this is getting on my nerve always getting 1 shotted without having a single chance of defending myself...


And yes i am serious about this, cause its really frustrating all the time when this happens, ENEMY MEELES YOU 1 HIT ON YOUR BODY YOU FALL TO THE GROUND AND DIES NOT A SINGLE CHANCE TO DEFEND YOURSELF!




Please give constructive responses and nothing like '' l2p '' cause i know how to play this f ing game but this is getting on my nerve...

[utek]

Originally Posted by saprize

ENEMY MEELES YOU 1 HIT ON YOUR BODY YOU FALL TO THE GROUND AND DIES NOT A SINGLE CHANCETO DEFEND YOURSELF!

here,have this 71 chances to defend yourself...

[AtheistIII]

You run into a house and right on the corner an enemy comes and 1 shots you with a melee.

Simple solution, never be the first to enter an unsecured room, usually you are surrounded by players who are eager to run in before you, and if that isn't the case, Kamerad/Tovarish grenade will gladly do the first step.
But by the time you press a block/counter button you can as well simply blast away with whatever a weapon you have.

[Cyper]

Originally Posted by saprize

like in cod or bf or something, its ridiculous being 1 shotted on 1 hit to your body......

This isn't CoD or BF.

[saprize]

So your saying 1 melee hit to your shoulder makes you die instant is realistic?

[saprize]

Originally Posted by AtheistIII

Simple solution, never be the first to enter an unsecured room, usually you are surrounded by players who are eager to run in before you, and if that isn't the case, Kamerad/Tovarish grenade will gladly do the first step.
But by the time you press a block/counter button you can as well simply blast away with whatever a weapon you have.

Its not easy if your assault and have to choose 3 directions to go to 1 is an open field with lots of rifle and mg fire and 2 is middle were a house is were you can go between 1 and 3 and 3 is another open field with rifles and mgs firing at each other from ranges and covers and the middle with the house is the best choice for an assault.

[AtheistIII]

the middle with the house is the best choice for an assault.

yes, but as an assault i had never problems with being melee'd, besides from behind where you can't do much anyways.
If someone charges you frontally, simply pull the trigger.
Unless your looking at the floor he won't do much more than bleed out at your feets.

[saprize]

Originally Posted by AtheistIII

yes, but as an assault i had never problems with being melee'd, besides from behind where you can't do much anyways.
If someone charges you frontally, simply pull the trigger.
Unless your looking at the floor he won't do much more than bleed out at your feets.

ok well we can go on and on all day about this how to survive in the game.

[r5cya]

Originally Posted by saprize

ok well we can go on and on all day about this how to survive in the game.

we could, but i don't think the point is sinking in anyway. have you ever been up-close to a ww2 bayonet? two feet of sharpened steel. i shove that into you, anywhere, and you will be down for the count.
this game has injuries that kill you instantly, like if you jump from a certain height(some say it's not high enough). you break your leg. you should be able to at least continue fighting from your current position, right? No. TWI has decided that that type of injury would leave you combat inefective and thus ends your life for you. it was decided that the game would be more fun killing you off, than to have have a server full of wounded guys laying around unable to move, wishing for a quicker death.
whoever said throw the nade in first, get the prize. nothing says clear the room better than a nade, followed by you running in and spraying the room with smg fire. if you're the rifleman, use both nades. the second one is sure to finish them off now.

[saprize]

that's not what im talking about, i am talking about a weapon without a knife sticked killing me instantly hitting my shoulder, or do you have nerve sensors that automatically hits nerves in your body with the weapon hitting the shoulders making the person paralyzed and hearts stop beating??

[r5cya]

Originally Posted by saprize

that's not what im talking about, i am talking about a weapon without a knife sticked killing me instantly hitting my shoulder, or do you have nerve sensors that automatically hits nerves in your body with the weapon hitting the shoulders making the person paralyzed and hearts stop beating??

did you miss my post? TWI made the game this way. getting broken bones ends in your combat innefectiveness/death. if i butt-stroke you with the butt of a mauser or mosin, you'll have broken bones, hence, death.
it's wrong for some of the weapons to be so deadly with melee though. like getting whacked with a p08 or tt-33 and insta-killed. that seems really odd.
if you'd focused a bit more on the specifics in your first post, with less emotion, your point would have been made easier.
you did say "knife" in your opening post. from that we could only assume you meant the bayonet. they equal death. as does the butt end of a rifle. it should take at least few whacks with a pistol and i find it absurd that you not only can kill with binoculars, but get a freaking achievement for it!

[The Chocolate Jesus]

Originally Posted by r5cya

it should take at least few whacks with a pistol and i find it absurd that you not only can kill with binoculars, but get a freaking achievement for it!

I think it's great that you get a freaking achievement for that! Besides you could kill someone with binoculars....it would just take it's time.

[AtheistIII]

Besides you could kill someone with binoculars....it would just take it's time.

Cartman killing Kyle.........sort of - YouTube

[ro2player]

Originally Posted by AtheistIII

Cartman killing Kyle.........sort of - YouTube

Either Tripwire watched too much South park, or South park creators played too much commander with his binoculars in RO 2...

[Grenator]

Originally Posted by saprize

that's not what im talking about, i am talking about a weapon without a knife sticked killing me instantly hitting my shoulder, or do you have nerve sensors that automatically hits nerves in your body with the weapon hitting the shoulders making the person paralyzed and hearts stop beating??

Stop believing what you see in action movies. Shoulder injuries are some of the worst. If you get a bayonet in your shoulder, you are out of the melee, you can't defend yourself, full stop. And if you survive, you are very likely to lose most of the mobility in that arm, or lose the arm completely, so you're not returning to the frontline.

RO2's melee mechanic, in a simplified way, reproduces the real outcome of such injury.

(And I guess the irony is lost on you when you ask others to respond constructively to your rant.)

[Balthasar]

I don't think you should under estimate the pistol melee effectiveness either.
I was watching deadliest warrior, and a human skull getting hit with a pistol (helmet on, I think) caused severe fractures, and blood to shoot out of the ears.

That seems pretty combat ineffective to me.

I also dare you to carry around a rifle after breaking your shoulder. Now fire the rifle. I don't think you could.

[saprize]

Originally Posted by Grenator

Stop believing what you see in action movies. Shoulder injuries are some of the worst. If you get a bayonet in your shoulder, you are out of the melee, you can't defend yourself, full stop. And if you survive, you are very likely to lose most of the mobility in that arm, or lose the arm completely, so you're not returning to the frontline.

RO2's melee mechanic, in a simplified way, reproduces the real outcome of such injury.

(And I guess the irony is lost on you when you ask others to respond constructively to your rant.)

So people survive accidents getting their arm lost or gets it paralyzed and survives it? Maybe you should do some research, hitting your shoulder with something heavy does not kill you. Why cant you just accept the fact that the meele actions in this game is not realistic? My father is a construction worker, he was in an accident once were get got a stone of rock hitting hes body, and this was lots lots heavier then a frekking rifle or any kind of weapon. And you know what? He survived? Can you imagine that? Something heavier then a weapon did not kill him? Please do some research before saying something pointless.

Please explain to me how tons of other people have survived getting things lots lots of heavier then a weapon on them and survived it?

[AtheistIII]

In Red Orchestra Death doesn't nesecarly means that you'd be dead IRL but you are combat ineffective and won't be usefull on the battlefield any more.
So the game simply lets you die instead of fighting on with one arm.

[r5cya]

Originally Posted by AtheistIII

In Red Orchestra Death doesn't nesecarly means that you'd be dead IRL but you are combat ineffective and won't be usefull on the battlefield any more.
So the game simply lets you die instead of fighting on with one arm.

i've told him that twice in this post allready. i don't think he wants to believe us.

[saprize]

Then you maybe should have written it like he did instead of a wall of text?

If any mod sees this please lock this thread or remove it, i got my answer now.