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almost 60 hours played in ro2 already and I have yet to lose as allies on this map.
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Why Do Axis Win at a Higher Rate Than Allies?
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Red Oktober Factory-
almost 60 hours played in ro2 already and I have yet to lose as allies on this map.
I usually go for the team that has less players or seems to be generally doing badly, and unsurprisingly thus most often end up on the allied side. I usually play SL and throws smoke, goes for the objective, gives orders etc, but it is true that it is almost always a small minority that responds to this, the rest just camps or run around like headless chickens as usual.
The fun thing is that since I am often in the cap zone in enemy territory, the camping noobs in my squad sometimes get visibly surpised when they choose "Squad Leader" as spawn point and ends up behind enemy lines. Watching such a noob turn and twist before finally slinking back towards our own lines to camping safety (if they don't get killed beforehand) fills me with a combination of amusement and sadness.
Also I frequently experience having thrice the amount of points (both team and kills) than the second best player on the team, and while I am good, I know I am not that good, it is just a sign that the rest are simply not trying hard enough.
The fun thing is that since I am often in the cap zone in enemy territory, the camping noobs in my squad sometimes get visibly surpised when they choose "Squad Leader" as spawn point and ends up behind enemy lines. Watching such a noob turn and twist before finally slinking back towards our own lines to camping safety (if they don't get killed beforehand) fills me with a combination of amusement and sadness.
Also I frequently experience having thrice the amount of points (both team and kills) than the second best player on the team, and while I am good, I know I am not that good, it is just a sign that the rest are simply not trying hard enough.
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I think gaming style is crucial here.
Soviet players MUST move a lot, inflitrate, counter-attack, bypass the enemy.
Instead of doing that, they choose to camp at a window, and Axis guys can freely pick them from a distance while an assault team is storming the capture point...
I noticed that when Soviet players decide to rush and move quickly, they become an absolute nightmare for the Germans, even if the team is made of veterans.
Of course, you need to assign those Mosin and this sniper to a camping position, but for God's sake, move quickly and act sharply
Soviet players MUST move a lot, inflitrate, counter-attack, bypass the enemy.
Instead of doing that, they choose to camp at a window, and Axis guys can freely pick them from a distance while an assault team is storming the capture point...
I noticed that when Soviet players decide to rush and move quickly, they become an absolute nightmare for the Germans, even if the team is made of veterans.
Of course, you need to assign those Mosin and this sniper to a camping position, but for God's sake, move quickly and act sharply
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I always play allied and my team has won ~70% of my played games, I do prefer the axis weapons though which is why I usually play assault or squad leader in CQC so that I can steal their weapons (and grenades, gotta love killing a german then throwing his grenades at his friends)
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I'm not suggesting you're all wrong by any means, but in my experience, as long as you have a cohesive allied team that know how to play the axis don't win any more often.
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Why Do Axis Win at a Higher Rate Than Allies?
- Better map spots for Axis team
- The better players join Axis (most of the time, 90%; just like in CoD4 for example - Marines team always win)
- Way better weapons - MKB, MP40
- German uniforms pwn in urban setting maps
EDIT: As I said before - in WW2 Russia won over Germany because of their way higher soldier count. With the same amount of soldiers on the field, Germany will will for sure.
- Better map spots for Axis team
- The better players join Axis (most of the time, 90%; just like in CoD4 for example - Marines team always win)
- Way better weapons - MKB, MP40
- German uniforms pwn in urban setting maps
EDIT: As I said before - in WW2 Russia won over Germany because of their way higher soldier count. With the same amount of soldiers on the field, Germany will will for sure.
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Come on now. Anyone who says the MP40, the MKB and the Panzer aren't noticeably better than their Russian counterparts is kidding themselves.
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Either that or because the Nazis tried to slaughter everyone who wasnt German...
[sarcasm] hmm nope, now I think about it, its just the Germans being annoying.
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On topic; I agree, some maps are so very inbalanced at times, yet as usual, it depends on the team. Im an Axis player, I despise the feel of the PPSh and SVT, yet the 98K and G41 both feel wonderful.
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Now for some less heer fanboi reasons:
Mp40 still havent got the nerf it had long due and INSTEAD
they gave out prototype assault rifles to everyone LOLOLOLO.
Ppsh still kicks like a mule while it shouldnt.
German uniforms are darker and are better with the horrible dark corners in this game plus at a certain graphic setting, Russian uniforms glow LOLOLOLOL
Mp40 still havent got the nerf it had long due and INSTEAD
they gave out prototype assault rifles to everyone LOLOLOLO.
Ppsh still kicks like a mule while it shouldnt.
German uniforms are darker and are better with the horrible dark corners in this game plus at a certain graphic setting, Russian uniforms glow LOLOLOLOL
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Like some other people already said.
- Some maps needs a bit of re-balancing and most of the times this is currently in favor for the axis team
- A lot of people will join Axis because they think they are cool.
- Right now the Axis seem to have better weapons.
- Some maps needs a bit of re-balancing and most of the times this is currently in favor for the axis team
- A lot of people will join Axis because they think they are cool.
- Right now the Axis seem to have better weapons.
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i think the ro 1 vets are go for axis side while the newplayers go to russian side, all of my friend who i know and played ro 1 before they are always go whit german... I think TWI is planned the maps very balanced, and in the closed beta maybe they enven balanced but they cannot calculate whit almost all ro 1 vet will play whit german.
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1) Superior LMGs, SMGs (more well rounded. Effective outside of CQC), and now, assault rifles. Not to mention tanks.
2) Several polls have shown that far more people prefer the Axis to the Allies, and the Axis team usually outnumbers the Allies no matter what.
3) They have very effective defensive tools, and some incredible Assault power that the Allies just can't match. (MG34 kicks ***, Mkb can rape a room full of riflemen in the hands of an experienced user).
4) PIV is absolutely superior to the T34 in most respects, and will usually win a 1v1 unless the T34 commander is pretty good or the PIV commander is incompetent.
2) Several polls have shown that far more people prefer the Axis to the Allies, and the Axis team usually outnumbers the Allies no matter what.
3) They have very effective defensive tools, and some incredible Assault power that the Allies just can't match. (MG34 kicks ***, Mkb can rape a room full of riflemen in the hands of an experienced user).
4) PIV is absolutely superior to the T34 in most respects, and will usually win a 1v1 unless the T34 commander is pretty good or the PIV commander is incompetent.
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QFT
What advantages do allies have over axis?
SVT scope.
First phase of Station can be easy sometimes.
Drawing a blank now.
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To make it more fair axis teams should be locked at x% of the allies team meaning that there should be like 20% less axis all the time.
In reality germans had the better weapons and blitzkrieg tactics etc but the russians were far more and they were almost suicidal. (Maybe because they were shot in the back by their own people).
In reality germans had the better weapons and blitzkrieg tactics etc but the russians were far more and they were almost suicidal. (Maybe because they were shot in the back by their own people).
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Implying that germans didnt shoot deserters? Get your head out of your enemy at the gates ***.
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Except for how their leader wasn't German, nor were many of his closest companions, right-hand man Rudolf Hess included, who was Egyptian. Nor were like 90% of the Wehrmacht late in the war.
How about Territory Grain Elevator being next to impossible for Germans and getting voted in constantly by the entire soviet team?
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The funny thing is, it's only impossible for Germans because their assault guns are great at the longest ranges in that map, so they just sit back and camp in peace.
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Because it's the only map where we stand a chance, given the superiority of the German equipment outside of, say, scoped STVs. I notice you didn't bring up any equipment superiority however, which is telling.
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