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I still believe the mp5 is for medic. and have 2 guns with healing darts are overpowered aslong the medic dont have 500% recharge rate. cuz you can just swap between mp5 and medicgun for unlimited healz
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Incidently I am thinking about reviving a classic suggestion that a number of people have made before. I believe however that this suggestion is made more potent by the inclusion of these new weapons.
2 examples that I remember off top of my head.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=41310
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45989
I'd also like to draw special attention to this variant. Looks sick
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=626961#post626961
Marco implemented this in his ServerPerks Mut, it'd be nice if they introduced this into the official game. Especially if they are adding more weapons.
I think the point is that most of the weapons don't even look that much different, let alone function any different. (Of course this is speculation) As a casual observer the biggest difference in the shotguns for example is the stock, well in first person I'm not going to notice that, and I don't look at peoples guns when playing. So unless its function differers it no longer adds much other than a larger memory footprint.
Same goes for the one that looks like the Scar. And before the gun nuts (Candle I'm looking at you =P) jump in with lists of ballistic figures and weapon info to highlight the difference between the existing shotgun (Bellini?) and the suggested one, remember this game has shotguns rounds that penetrate upwards of 3 zeds.
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oooo have to strongly disagree with you there my good friend.
From what I can see, each weapon has a unique usage compared to any weapon in the game thus far..... (ok maybe bar the top one, however if that is a tele sight then this is also unique)
Husk cannon, nothing to compare it to
MP5, hopefully if that is a light attachment, we don't have a sub-machine gun with FL
Revolver, - TWI hasn't made one yet
AR15? - with rocket launcher
Claymore - no sword like that exits, except the katana and that is like comparing a farrari with a lambo
Shotgun may be scatter or long range (hopefully this is the medic shotgun everyone asked for)
I think the main thinking behind these weapons is the fact they are US military weapons, as stated in one of Yoshiro's posts on FB (Bloody Yanks)
Everyone has been asking for M16s etc, so if you are going to make one US based weapon, then you may as well make one for everyone.
As you said though this is all speculation but from how I see it, it is TWI fulfilling wishlists for many of the KF players.
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add to that, if this would have been a character pack, everyone would have wanted new zeds, if it would have been new zeds, everyone would have wanted new guns. someone somewhere will still be unhappy that we are getting free content and not exactly what they wanted.
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Regarding "what new the weapons bring", i can agreed with Husk Cannon (very unique), MP5 (SMG with flashlight is new, plus it fits as a VERY common weapon in britain), Revolver (completely new style of weapon), and the AR with underslung grenade launcher (also very new in this game). All those feel new in some way. But the other three, not so much (at least from the info we know about them for now, they COULD bring something unique though, but i doubt it):
The Shotgun - So, another shotgun with flashlight? Just that it's semiautomatic? Pretty much just a mix of AA12 in semimode and the standard shotgun. Doesn't feel all too unique, rather that it is just gonna replace the standard shotgun. The KSG from the IJC weaponpack felt way more unique though, with its variable spread.
Nonetheless, im not gonna complain about that we are getting a new toy though (FOR FREE!). I'll wait with the final verdict on this one.
The Claymore - Pretty much a merge of Katana (in that it is a sword) and the Fire Axe (in that it is probably slow and heavy). If it brings the "cleave multiple specimen in a single sweep", sure that would be new, but that could just as well be added to the Katana's secondary fire and/or Fire Axe's primary fire. I'd probably would've preferred Dual Machetes and maybe even throwable Machetes/Fire Axe.
Despite my complaints, the Claymore feels very british, so that's a good thing. And despite maybe not being unique, the Claymore is quite the bad@ss weapon
The AR on the top - My biggest hate. It's such an ugly weapon that so many people (kids in particular for some reason?) seem to love. WHY?! What's so special about this frikkin weapon? And from the looks of it, it doesn't seem to be bringing anything new either. This is the only weapon i personally REALLY don't like being added. On top of that, a lot of people (especially on the Ideas & Suggestions forums) were always complaining about the people that wanted the M16/M4 (or similar kind of weapons). Now, when it is getting added though? Where did this "hatred" of yours go? Where is the consistancy in you people?
*Sigh* ... i have a feeling there are gonna be so many Commandos running around with this weapon now -.-But, that is my PERSONAL complaint about the weapon. I completely understand why TWI is adding it though, cuz that single weapon is gonna bring in a cr@pload of new players to the game (and keep them playing) which equals lots of profit. So i still see why it was added and that's totally fine by me
After all, despite not liking the weapon all too much, im still gonna have to test it out though At last, to clarify: Despite the complaints in this post i still will enjoy this update to bits because after all we are getting these things for free! Thanks for constantly refreshing this game TWI!
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Regarding "what new the weapons bring", i can agreed with Husk Cannon (very unique), MP5 (SMG with flashlight is new, plus it fits as a VERY common weapon in britain), Revolver (completely new style of weapon), and the AR with underslung grenade launcher (also very new in this game). All those feel new in some way. But the other three, not so much (at least from the info we know about them for now, they COULD bring something unique though, but i doubt it):
The Shotgun - So, another shotgun with flashlight? Just that it's semiautomatic? Pretty much just a mix of AA12 in semimode and the standard shotgun. Doesn't feel all too unique, rather that it is just gonna replace the standard shotgun. The KSG from the IJC weaponpack felt way more unique though, with its variable spread.
Nonetheless, im not gonna complain about that we are getting a new toy though (FOR FREE!). I'll wait with the final verdict on this one.
The Claymore - Pretty much a merge of Katana (in that it is a sword) and the Fire Axe (in that it is probably slow and heavy). If it brings the "cleave multiple specimen in a single sweep", sure that would be new, but that could just as well be added to the Katana's secondary fire and/or Fire Axe's primary fire. I'd probably would've preferred Dual Machetes and maybe even throwable Machetes/Fire Axe.
Despite my complaints, the Claymore feels very british, so that's a good thing. And despite maybe not being unique, the Claymore is quite the bad@ss weapon
The AR on the top - My biggest hate. It's such an ugly weapon that so many people (kids in particular for some reason?) seem to love. WHY?! What's so special about this frikkin weapon? And from the looks of it, it doesn't seem to be bringing anything new either. This is the only weapon i personally REALLY don't like being added. On top of that, a lot of people (especially on the Ideas & Suggestions forums) were always complaining about the people that wanted the M16/M4 (or similar kind of weapons). Now, when it is getting added though? Where did this "hatred" of yours go? Where is the consistancy in you people?
But, that is my PERSONAL complaint about the weapon. I completely understand why TWI is adding it though, cuz that single weapon is gonna bring in a cr@pload of new players to the game (and keep them playing) which equals lots of profit. So i still see why it was added and that's totally fine by me
At last, to clarify: Despite the complaints in this post i still will enjoy this update to bits because after all we are getting these things for free! Thanks for constantly refreshing this game TWI!
Nice post and actually thought out.
I agree about the shotgun as I think this will be the weakest link out of the bunch and also can't see what more it can bring to the table.
The claymore though, yes it is just another sword and I think I used the wrong comparison in my last post.
I'll put it another way, if say the modders added a cricket bat to the game, wouldn't the US want a baseball bat? even though they are practically the same thing? (a piece of wood with a handle) and I don't think you would have any complaints there.
As far as the AR15/M16/M4 whatever it is, it is with out doubt an iconic weapon.
LOL, you know, I love guns and had never even heard of a SCAR before I played this game, yet I sure know what an M16 is.
If the dev's are making a US based mod, then it HAS to be in there as it would be like posting a picture of London and not having an iconic red double decker bus in it.
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I have a feeling the husk weapon will be heavy to the point you can't have both the flamethrower + husk weapon.
Though the Highlander Claymore looks nice. Swing it to kill multiple enemies with one sweep, strong move, but very slow would make berserker interesting. It may be a weapon that destroys the general masses pretty easily.
Though the Highlander Claymore looks nice. Swing it to kill multiple enemies with one sweep, strong move, but very slow would make berserker interesting. It may be a weapon that destroys the general masses pretty easily.
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In my opinion not every weapon has to be unique as in real life they're ALL almost the same. The only difference between the M16, M4, STG77 (aug), Famas, Scar-L, G36, Tavor, L85A1 and so on.... is accuracy and fire rate and they look different. And everyone might find another weapon better or more suitable.
So a variaty is always good. Actually i just hate it to always play with the same shotgun or assault rifle. I wouldn't mind if there were 1000 weapons which are almost the same. So that everyone can pick her/his personal favourite, which has the optimal damage, recoil and accuracy sats in her/his opinion.
Just like in any other game. I don't see the reason why ppl always want a very unique feature (although it's nice) in KF.
So a variaty is always good. Actually i just hate it to always play with the same shotgun or assault rifle. I wouldn't mind if there were 1000 weapons which are almost the same. So that everyone can pick her/his personal favourite, which has the optimal damage, recoil and accuracy sats in her/his opinion.
Just like in any other game. I don't see the reason why ppl always want a very unique feature (although it's nice) in KF.
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You can't please everyone. That's just the way it is. Looking forward to this anyway.
True, that is why this will never happen: a berserker with brass knuckles on fast hands.
How sweet it would be to see close-up slow motion scenes of teeth flying, jaw breaking, skull cracking, blood squirting, nasty gashes in face, etc..
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Iron sights and a regular magazine, eh? I guess having a grenade launcher on it is plenty fancy as-is.
It will be interesting how they handle the multiple ammo types, and reloading of the launcher.
If it's not select fire, I hope it's just semi auto, but FA is cool too.
It will be interesting how they handle the multiple ammo types, and reloading of the launcher.
If it's not select fire, I hope it's just semi auto, but FA is cool too.
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It's pretty simple if you ask me, I've done it before and also seen it before in a mod pack for UT2004 called Ballistic Weapons
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They'll have to do something with the trader menu if they want you to be able to chose what sort of ammo you're getting for it, though.
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One friend of mine found this
So, get your wallets ready guys! Its going on live "soon" I guess
So, get your wallets ready guys!
Its going on live "soon" I guess
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I'm hoping semi-auto only, kinda like an FAL, with the grenade launcher it's secondary function.
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