Give pistols to high-ranking soldiers of any class.

[CocaineInMyBrain]

Originally Posted by Joseph-Porta

Pistols to Riflemen?
I would never use my rifle again. Why would I use my rifle if I can use my lvl 50 C96?

But both sides had the mentality.. you where given the weapons you needed to solve your specific task. Riflemen didn't need a pistol.

Apparently you missed the part where OP said that pistols would only given to HERO riflemen ( 2 people total on a 64 player server) and that it would limited to the P38 and the TT33. Not that I would want to see this in Classic, but it isn't something so drastic that warrants the outrage seen in this thread.

[W4lt3r]

Originally Posted by Joseph-Porta

Pistols to Riflemen?
I would never use my rifle again. Why would I use my rifle if I can use my lvl 50 C96?

But both sides had the mentality.. you where given the weapons you needed to solve your specific task. Riflemen didn't need a pistol.

Simple -
P38 for German Riflemen
TT-33 for the Russian Riflemen.

Maybe the Mauser and/or M1895 for the Hero Rifles. There.

[Panzer Jager '43]

Originally Posted by W4lt3r

Simple -
P38 for German Riflemen
TT-33 for the Russian Riflemen.

Maybe the Mauser and/or M1895 for the Hero Rifles. There.

No, it'd have to be P38 / TT33 for Hero Rifles if anything. Basic Riflemen don't deserve them; we tried that already and it's too unrealistic and imbalanced.

[Piscator]

@OP

It is just a bad idea. Action mode is the one you want to play if you want pistols. RO is in part at least for me about bolt-action rifles and shootouts between riflemen. Take that away and we end up even closer to the big MP FPS titles.

I am already strictly against enemy weapon loadout and spawn on SL. Next thing will be everyone can pick the class they want like in FF. The limitations given by the game makes it different and great. Having it all does not mean it makes the game better.
Great immersion loss to see everyone run around with full automatic pistols and assault rifles...I think that is another game and should be.

And I agree that the progression and unlock system should be for action mode only.

@Cocaine
No he meant higher rank soldiers meaning pretty much anyone who played rifleman class a bit would get one. (Highly decorated and Hero).

[Fulgenzio]

For god's sake. Last time I say. Basic idea has been changed through the thread. You are all talking about a whole 32 team of RIFLEMEN who are running around screwing game up with mauser c96.

First: Mauser c96 takes a ridiculously high amount of kills, I had the chance to meet one of the FEW who actually have one and he said it takes 2 WEEKS of grinding. Enough to scare most people.
Second: It has been limited to the "noob" pistols which dont have those scary upgrades.
Third: It has been further modified only for heroes, which are limited to 6 per server (on 64 player ones!).
Fourth: And what if the hero is part of a class which already owns pistols itself? Number of those presumed "commando" riflemen with dangerous rocket-firing p38 would be reduced.

[CocaineInMyBrain]

Originally Posted by Piscator

@OP



@Cocaine
No he meant higher rank soldiers meaning pretty much anyone who played rifleman class a bit would get one. (Highly decorated and Hero).

That was his suggestion in the OP, but he posted later as a sort of compromise that only hero riflemen will get them.

In any case I can't see this being an issue if its kept out of Classic .

[Panzer Jager '43]

Originally Posted by Fulgenzio

For god's sake. Last time I say. Basic idea has been changed through the thread. You are all talking about a whole 32 team of RIFLEMEN who are running around screwing game up with mauser c96.

First: Mauser c96 takes a ridiculously high amount of kills, I had the chance to meet one of the FEW who actually have one and he said it takes 2 WEEKS of grinding. Enough to scare most people.
Second: It has been limited to the "noob" pistols which dont have those scary upgrades.
Third: It has been further modified only for heroes, which are limited to 6 per server (on 64 player ones!).
Fourth: And what if the hero is part of a class which already owns pistols itself? Number of those presumed "commando" riflemen with dangerous rocket-firing p38 would be reduced.

2 weeks to get a Mauser C96 to level 50? It took me 2 days grinding Countdown with Bots. If you didn't know you get 16 points per kill in Countdown, as opposed to 2 in Territory. It's a bit.... fast.

[The Commissar]

As best stated earlier: "How about no?"
It simply isn't historically accurate to have riflemen with pistols, it wasn't that common of a sight.