Friendly Fire

Waryn · Jan 4, 2011

How do I detect/find friendly fire servers?

After playing it once by accident it feels stupid to play without it, like it's a downgrade.

As you may have noticed favoriting servers doesn't work, I must have favorited dozens and not one does appear under server browser menu option for favorites.

Why can't you hear the helicopter sound when online but you can hear it when you are playing solo?

If you have multiple commandos in a squad is the zed-time triggering calculated individually or does it compensate for the number of commandos?

And advice for those that get frozen when entering a game, which happens to me all the time, just open console and type reconnect twice, it works every time. You don't have to wait to get frozen, just type it immediately upon entering any server.

Gartley · Jan 4, 2011

Waryn said:
How do I detect/find friendly fire servers?

It will either say in the title or when you select a server it's displayed in the bottom left status window.

Waryn said:
After playing it once by accident it feels stupid to play without it, like it's a downgrade.

No comment.

Waryn said:
As you may have noticed favoriting servers doesn't work, I must have favorited dozens and not one does appear under server browser menu option for favorites.

Check your filters, if they still don't show they are either full or not running.

Waryn said:
Why can't you hear the helicopter sound when online but you can hear it when you are playing solo?

I don't know. Much less care tbh.

Waryn said:
If you have multiple commandos in a squad is the zed-time triggering calculated individually or does it compensate for the number of commandos?

Zed time in my experiance is random, and commandos/zerkers can only extended it so far.

Salad Snake · Jan 4, 2011

Friendly fire percentage is in the bottom-left window when you select a server. There's also a lot of other stats there as well, such as max spectators.

_Duke_ · Jan 5, 2011

To add favorites, add them from the server search window, not the in-game menu button. That button never works for me either.

Sammers · Jan 5, 2011

I don't like friendly fire. It makes 90% of weapons and tactics terrible and bottlenecks your team into playing in a very boring repetitive fashion.

C_Gibby · Jan 5, 2011

Sammers said:
I don't like friendly fire. It makes 90% of weapons and tactics terrible and bottlenecks your team into playing in a very boring repetitive fashion.

This ^

Plus, it's extreme trollbait.

Raziel · Jan 5, 2011

I like FF for a simple reason:
FF Server + :troll: = Profit
(at least for a medic)

C_Gibby · Jan 5, 2011

Raziel said:
I like FF for a simple reason:
FF Server + :troll: = Profit
(at least for a medic)

Actually, I don't think FF damage counts last time I checked.

(It's not as if I shot someone just so I could heal them... You know what I mean)

Johnny Darko · Jan 5, 2011

Sammers said:
I don't like friendly fire. It makes 90% of weapons and tactics terrible and bottlenecks your team into playing in a very boring repetitive fashion.

Pretty much. A lot of why I enjoy KF so much is because you're not held back by silly concepts like FF and instead can simply fire a LAW Rocket or Grenade or Shotgun blast at a teammate and clear everything off them, instead of being scared that you'll instantly kill them and therefore go off on your own.

Mille_W · Jan 5, 2011

Waryn said:
Why can't you hear the helicopter sound when online but you can hear it when you are playing solo?

Same with icebreaker. When you play on multiplayer the ship stands still, but it doesn't on singleplayer..

Merin Redplate · Jan 5, 2011

Mille_W said:
Same with icebreaker. When you play on multiplayer the ship stands still, but it doesn't on singleplayer..

Hmm... never noticed that.

Vintage · Jan 7, 2011

I was playing yesterday and my friend asked me if friendly fire was on. I took out my crossbow and shot him. It was on. Funny thing is he exploded when I shot him. Must have been a special mutator on because I've never seen anything explode from a crossbow bolt and the zeds didn't explode when I hit them with it either. Then that same round (I somehow forgot ff was on) another friend was swarmed by clots. I told him "Don't worry I'm nading you to get them off you" to which he replied calmy "You idiot" as he exploded. Then we found a new server.

Deafmute · Jan 7, 2011

Vintage said:
I was playing yesterday and my friend asked me if friendly fire was on. I took out my crossbow and shot him. It was on. Funny thing is he exploded when I shot him. Must have been a special mutator on because I've never seen anything explode from a crossbow bolt and the zeds didn't explode when I hit them with it either. Then that same round (I somehow forgot ff was on) another friend was swarmed by clots. I told him "Don't worry I'm nading you to get them off you" to which he replied calmy "You idiot" as he exploded. Then we found a new server.

I wish Zeds exploded from crossbow bolts.

Wolfdust · Jan 8, 2011

Sammers said:
I don't like friendly fire. It makes 90% of weapons and tactics terrible and bottlenecks your team into playing in a very boring repetitive fashion.

Well that's like... your opinion, man.

Seriously though, I like FF myself, and I like noFF. They're both fun. FF forces you to think before you shoot and employ a lot of tactics into weapons use rather than doing stuff like spraying fire all over your teammates to kill crawlers on them.

noupperlobeman · Jan 8, 2011

Waryn said:
How do I detect/find friendly fire servers?

After playing it once by accident it feels stupid to play without it, like it's a downgrade.

As you may have noticed favoriting servers doesn't work, I must have favorited dozens and not one does appear under server browser menu option for favorites.

Why can't you hear the helicopter sound when online but you can hear it when you are playing solo?

If you have multiple commandos in a squad is the zed-time triggering calculated individually or does it compensate for the number of commandos?

And advice for those that get frozen when entering a game, which happens to me all the time, just open console and type reconnect twice, it works every time. You don't have to wait to get frozen, just type it immediately upon entering any server.

Its pretty easy to avoid friendly fire servers. Just don't join empty servers. Friendly fire servers are usually devoid of players because friendly fire in this game is an absolutely absurd idea.

Lewt · Jan 8, 2011

Vintage said:
I was playing yesterday and my friend asked me if friendly fire was on. I took out my crossbow and shot him. It was on. Funny thing is he exploded when I shot him. Must have been a special mutator on because I've never seen anything explode from a crossbow bolt and the zeds didn't explode when I hit them with it either.

This is why I don't play friendly fire servers; I am guaranteed at least one death due to friendly fire, even if I don't wound anyone else. One time I headshot a guy with an LAR on Office, and everyone got pissed off despite the fact there was no indication of friendly fire in the MOTD, server title, or anything. He claimed that he informed me over his mic when I joined the server.

I take around 10 seconds to load a map after the "player has joined" message.

Also your friend probably exploded because the bow does (did?) 300 damage in one body shot. Players have less health than a clot on most difficulties - it's just that zombies do very little damage in the way of numbers. Maybe 5% friendly fire is acceptable, unperked. Hell, I ran a player vs player server at 12.5%, where a lot of things killed you in around 2 headshots. A lot higher to be realistic or train yourself not to hit players makes sense, but 100% is ****ing stupid in every way.

Nanostrike · Jan 9, 2011

Sammers said:
I don't like friendly fire. It makes 90% of weapons and tactics terrible and bottlenecks your team into playing in a very boring repetitive fashion.

Yup. Not to mention that unavoidable accidents can utterly screw a team doing well. A bad grenade bounce can near-kill and disorient a team enough to easily have 'em wipe on most higher levels.

gusone · Jan 10, 2011

The random headshot, or the grenade thrown badly that's what I love about it. It adds realism and a serious dose of it. Funny how people play one game like RO with friendly fire but then doth protest too much when it's in Killing Floor. Even when it all ends in a horrible disaster I love that as well. How you can go from a good group to one mistake and then the whole thing goes down the swany instantly. You just have to laugh when that happens. Remember that's why real men play friendly fire.

Deafmute · Jan 10, 2011

I'd prefer my games to be ended by an actual lapse in reason or tactics, not by an arbitrary bad grenade throw. RO is supposed to be super-realistic, which is why FF makes sense and is accepted. KF...not so much.

Undedd Jester · Jan 10, 2011

gusone said:
The random headshot, or the grenade thrown badly that's what I love about it. It adds realism and a serious dose of it. Funny how people play one game like RO with friendly fire but then doth protest too much when it's in Killing Floor. Even when it all ends in a horrible disaster I love that as well. How you can go from a good group to one mistake and then the whole thing goes down the swany instantly. You just have to laugh when that happens. Remember that's why real men play friendly fire.

I've considered running FF 100% on my HoE server a number of times, however my server is kinda got a cult following of players, kinda like a mini version of this forum really, and they alllike my server cause they can get their level accompishments in it. FF would hamper that somewhat

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