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Old 03-08-2010, 05:59 PM
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Well I was just writing stuff down that I thought of since i saw the husk (I haven't played in like seven months >_>.) My ideas are just stuff i made up if i was the patriarch and realized what others were doing too my "Children" Soooo umm make fun of it if you want :/, if not say its a good idea

[Stone]
*Kevin noticing the flesh pounds possibly being aimed at by the demolition squads he released his child- Stone. He was a far superior copy of the flesh pound. New, Better, capable of withstanding multiple amounts of explosive damage and bullets he was better then the flesh pound. Kevin realizing there was a flaw had to make Stone have a weakness, Too insure protection Kevin made sure too make the Stone no where near as aggressive as the flesh pound, for he did not want a repeat of the flesh pound incident. To counter act this flaw Kevin had given Stone qualities the flesh pound would want, but could not handle. These qualities were; More Armor then the flesh pound, He was taller then the flesh pound, stronger, larger, and even more powerful. His speed was not as fast as the flesh pound but not slower then a Scrake. With these qualities Stone had became the guardian of his fellow siblings, the Patriarchs children.

[Sefaur]
*Stone was now the cure too the patriarchs problems but now larger armies were coming too destroy the patriarchs children. Focusing on all of them, SO the patriarch devised a plan. He released Sefaur, A ticking time bomb. He was stronger, and faster then a gore fast, but a little bit smaller then a clot and weaker. The resistance forces against the Patriarchs’ armies could not believe in such a small creature too be a threat but he was rigged to blow. Sefaur was designed to blow on point blank range on anti armor weaponry, but not just that he was devastating on the battlefield wiping out squads before they even knew he was near. With these two new specimens the Stone had became the guard of the Patriarchs’ children and Sefaur was the guardian of Stone destroying anything that could even give the stone a bit of damage.




All my other ideas are too stupid in my opinion so tell me what you like about em :/ I tried actually making them have a story and purpose :P!

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Old 03-08-2010, 06:32 PM
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Better thought out than alot of ideas it has to be said.

My only initial thought in regards to the Stone is the Scrake has been pushed as the Zed with explosive resistance. Not only that but in a suicidal 6 man wave the Scrake actually has more health than the Fleshpound, and only rages when it gets to half health. Its a reasonable idea but I find it hard to really seperate the Scrake from the Stone.

The Sefaur I think has had a similar suggestion before. Some kind of Kamikaze goblin. To be fair some people rather liked the idea, although I myself wasn't a big fan of it. I think my only real issue is the potential mass team KO from 1 pretty speedy foe, and it sort of goes against Kevins "love" of his specimens to have one blow itself up. That being said though from a gameplay stand point it is a specimen that would make camping alot harder, could pose threats for welded doors with sudden big blasts to take away weld HP, and the demo would find a specimen it excels against other than merely the Patty's rockets. If it were added I would say the blast should harm other specimens as well, like a mobile Pipe Bomb.

Bow, I personally dont see how this weapon could believably rivalthe Crossbow. Plus the Sharpshooter has too many weapons already IMO. Would only like to see it as a spike weapon for the firebug (using flaming arrows of course), but damn me if that isn't a tad farfetched :P

I'd say no to the bow, becuase it would feel really out of place and pretty much shoe horned into the game. Some well thought out suggestions dude, some potentially good ideas in there
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:29 PM
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Well Sefaur is suppose to only blow up in a 4m radius and harm specimens of course. But with Kevin's "love" Its suppsoe to basically be a smaller clot just rigged to explode, and as you can see Kevin likes to max out the clots he can have lol. Sooo as clots as a sponge he has a newer and lesser loved one that explodes. And me and a friend were talking about the Sefaur running at Gorefast speed, which we think shouldn't be spawned as much as a husk but not lesser then a scrake.
ALSO Sefaur's bomb id like to be triggered by him instead of you shooting him and wiping out a team of specimens BUT if it was close and you were surrounded would harm everything.
With the stone being a Scrake. Well i didn't know about the Scrake having explosion defense.The scrake is just too weak by weapons such as a commando or something, but he can do reasonable damage- Stones purpose is too body block in a way but soak up most damage possibly stopping crossbow penetration to stop annoying crossbow men wiping a hallway in one shot
and stone will have very bad attack speed and can do damage like a flesh pound just slower.

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Old 03-08-2010, 07:49 PM
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*Bow- stronger headshot damage then a crossbow, No penetration, Expensive, Limited Ammo.
[SARCASM] Oh wow. Since crossbow can kill anything in 1 shot on any diffictuly, we sure need even more powerful weapon. Let it have 100x headshot multiplier, so that Patty would literally explode in a halo of blood and intestines when hit. And everyone knows that bows shoot arrows with greater force than any crossbow. [/SARCASM]
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[SARCASM] Oh wow. Since crossbow can kill anything in 1 shot on any difficulty, we sure need even more powerful weapon. Let it have 100x headshot multiplier, so that Patty would literally explode in a halo of blood and intestines when hit. And everyone knows that bows shoot arrows with greater force than any crossbow. [/SARCASM]
O_O I forget too delete the bow part and some trolls comes strolling by you don't have to actually ridicule it >_>
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As I say the Sefaur has had a similar suggestion before, so who knows with careful thought to balance and what not it could be a very interesting specimen.

On the Stone front I have to admit a specimen that didn't pose much attacking threat, but was just a total bullet sponge would wreak havoc in suicudal. Try taking out a husk with the flamethrower only and you'll see what I mean. It does remind me of when I tried the Killing Floor mod... at which I am crap by my own admission... but bloats are an absolute cock on that game. They just dont die on normal for me. Let me tell you getting slowly backed up into a corner with 2 bloats stumbling towards me scared the ruddy life out of me :P

Potential as I say. Not sure they would improve the game, but defiantely potential
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your, [Sefaur] idea reminds me of the little farts in dead space that blow up when they get too close.

Wouldn't mind having something similar to that in this game, but I think it would further cripple the already dead Zerker.......
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:15 PM
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Wouldn't mind having something similar to that in this game, but I think it would further cripple the already dead Zerker.......
I'd say 'zerker is far from dead. Sure, he can't kill everything with his main weapons (melee), but carrying a katana and a crossbow is a sure way to survive. I myself have killed alone 113 specimens on 6-man suicidal (wave 8) with a level 4 crossbow-wielding samurai 'zerker. His only real problem is the patty, but who doesn't have a problem with him anyways?

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Stone would steal scrake's uniqueness (that is, explosive damage resistance). But, as his name implies, he'd be as hard to break as a stone, right? So, adding further overall damage resistance at the cost of enraging, speed and damage seems rather reasonable. A true tank
And, as a side note, making it weak to fire for some odd reason would be a good way to bring firebug back from the "not-so-useful" perk category.
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O_O i think thats a good idea the firebug thing maybe something like the Scrakes stun, the Stone could be stunned by like over heat? ?

But yeah i wanted the Stone too be more of a way to ruin camping i mean people camp there lifes away in KF ;/ if not "Go Rambo" Which I use to do back in 1004 as a medic lol xD. but the stone was too cause camping as A TEAM and the Sefaurs are too actually have some way of making the players spread apart. Most the time when a fleshpound comes players try to stick together on each other and im wondering, " Wtf?"

but making the stone actually have a weakness to fire i think would be awesome. Since both firebugs and commandos are midlevel creature eliminators and the Commando having more Pro's because its better to aim with it and has more ammo. The Stone having a fire weakness, like you said, would be resurrecting the firebugs potential!

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Old 03-10-2010, 04:18 AM
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rofl that gave me an idea

A crawler buffed on steroid carrying a 20volt battery with a 10 farrat capacitor and to rails side by side with a metal dart in the middle
(Also known as a railgun)

Pretty much he sees you and aims the rails at you and charges the capacitor, which once charged discharges (not sure how many) X amps and fires the metal dart, and the displacement of the air will gib the crawler

ANYWAY stupid suggestion over

I'm interested in any new speciments,

however, this conflicts with KF's backline, as that all the zeds are experimental and the Armies 'n sh!t came AFTER the containment breach (which would wreck the labs, and also killed the scientists)
ANyway, good ideas!
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:42 AM
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rofl that gave me an idea

A crawler buffed on steroid carrying a 20volt battery with a 10 farads capacitor and to rails side by side with a metal dart in the middle
(Also known as a railgun)...
Fixed it ^^


But did the patty continue to produce his clones? Like making a new ones? Nobody didn't say no to that.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:35 PM
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From what i know, the story states he was creating specimens and then the army came in or whatever so he asks the other scientists to buff him while they escape, he protects his research with the specimens over running the people in Offices (Im guessing biotics is his main lab which would be under offices?) And with the custom maps seems to be hes escaping little ol' london and spreading out.

Also the Husk is a new little monstah :P He probably was created to take down foes that could cause a problem from a ranged line since it has also has a blast radius (of course this could be all accidental information im linking up and making up in my head :O)
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I think the husk was (plot-wise) an original specimen, but TWI only thought of it after the release.

ANyway why not have it that they'z were dormant on supressive drugs meant to contain them and after the outbreak and no resuplly of the narcotics, they wake up and get angry >:C

Also Nibe thanks for correction, because I don't even know how to spell farad and don't know what exactly it means (like x coloumbs kept y distance apart?), but with railguns it's either high-capacitance capacitor or high voltage power supply. I mean if you leave it long enough you can fire a railgun with a .5 volt battery
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honestly, there are no specimens that were developed after the initial outbreak because everything was destroyed and there won't ever be w/o breaking off from the storyline. the incubators just kept cloning the already designed and created specimens.
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Omar I understand but i believe somehow the patriarch could... I mean he is an exceptional human being...... technological advanced and genetically i believe he could somehow be more intelligent then the average for all we know he was a genius before this lol :/ he could have exceptional memory of the experiments he could have more scientists
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eh, it doesn't matter how they introduce new specimens. i just hope they will add some new ones in the future.
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A crawler buffed on steroid carrying a 20volt battery with a 10 farads capacitor and to rails side by side with a metal dart in the middle
(Also known as a railgun)...
hmm...

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A crawler buffed on steroids carrying a 1.21 gigawatt reactor with a flux capacitor - it runs 88 miles per hour, travels back in time and kills you in your sleep when you're a baby.
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Oh also I read on wiki bout patriarch being induced with Project Guardian O_O!!?!!?!? Never heard of it :O BUT since the patriarch is parts of all his projects combined i believe its possible! (could be some joke by some *** on the wiki :/*don't know*)
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An idea for more things for KF !

A skin tool. Allows weapons to have specific skins but in rows and columns like the character choice and perk. An idea of the HUD is below, 1- Weapon preview, 2- weapon choice, and 3-List of skin choices. The is basically like the usual crossbow being a camouflage, with this you could make the crossbow pure black on certain areas of it or have a different camouflage. Also armor (WHAT YOU BUY FROM TRADER, not characters.) Could be affected as well?
___________
|1----|--3--|
|_____|-----|
|2----|-----|
|_____|_____|


Anyone like the idea

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