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Old 02-06-2010, 05:33 AM
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There are many ww2 weapons which are not used by normal units. Or produced many of, like the g41.

But i would like to have more guns,

rare weapons are given to "Heroes" dont know what TWI thinks about the hero stuff, and nither do you

And what i mean with rare, is guns not in RO :OST. and not made very many of. wierd why did i think of this ....... dosent matter, fun looking at cool guns anyway.


rare guns:


-Karabiner 98b

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...t=40447&page=2


-Gewehr 98

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...ad.php?t=40447
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewehr_98

FG 42

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FG_42
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl11-e.htm

MP 40/II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP40#Va...d_developments

MP35

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP35
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg79-e.htm

Pnzerbuche 39

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerb%C3%BCchse_39


MP 34

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP34
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg81-e.htm

Mauser HSc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_HSC

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg103-e.htm

pistole 640(b)

info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power
http://www.ai4fr.com

some pictures
/main/page_militaria__collectibles_germany_hipower.html
http://warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-o...wer-rig-12980/


'Artillery Luger'
Lange Pistole 08 with 32 round Trommel-Magazin 08 and removable stock. HELL YEA.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../6a/Arty08.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol


German pistols.
a list of the most commonly used pistols in service by the Wehrmacht.
seems he knows what he is talking about afik.
http://ww2weaponsforum.com/showthrea...German-pistols

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Old 02-06-2010, 05:59 AM
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Let´s just keep it realistic, shall we.

The weapons which were commonly used in Battle of Stalingrad should be in game. Very uncommon weapons or weapons not used at all should not be in game. It´s as simple as that.
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Let´s just keep it realistic, shall we.

The weapons which were commonly used in Battle of Stalingrad should be in game. Very uncommon weapons or weapons not used at all should not be in game. It´s as simple as that.
there is going to be rare weapons in the game anyway so stfu.
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there is going to be rare weapons in the game anyway so stfu.
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Wow. How mature. And your age was about 12, I suppose.

At least I hope that it is, since otherwise there´s something wrong in your development of intelligence.
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Old 02-06-2010, 06:39 AM
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[QUOTE=RedGuardist;547206]Wow. How mature. And your age was about 12, I suppose.

Okay, you say I’m immature, when you are immature by saying so. And saying that my age is 12, is usually what people say when they them self are young.

And if there were something wrong with my development, how could i be badly developed if i were 12. i would not even be fully developed.

Think before you type.

And you state that there shouldn’t be any uncommon guns at all because it would be realistic, when TWI has already said this

Heroes: Obtain the ultimate goal and become a Hero online. Players with hero status inspire troops around them and cause fear in their enemies. Heroes have access to the best and rarest weapons and equipment, and will stand out visually from the rest of the soldiers.

so please if you are just don’t want uncommon weapons to be used in the game, say so, but not state the it isn’t going to be. Just because you don’t want.
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Old 02-06-2010, 07:18 AM
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There are enough uncommon guns in RO ost already.
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Lets keep this civilized please.

The german army was in constant shortage of sidearms for his officers and NCOs.
They used nearly everything they can get their hands on, especially the Browning Hi-Power 9mm.
Over 300,000 pistols were made for the Wehrmacht after the FN factory was siezed by Germany.
Pistols were designated the Pistole 640 b.



I think with 300,000 pistols in the wehrmacht this gun can´t be ignored.


But a Artillery Luger would be a nice addition for a HERO.
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Agreed on the Hi Power. They're common enough that you can still buy them fairly regularly:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Sea...=nazi+hi+power

Those are even a bit overpriced from other ones I've seen.
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Matt Baker: try to use stfu less and all will be better.
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there is going to be rare weapons in the game anyway so stfu.
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fund some info of the pistol 640(b)


info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power
http://www.ai4fr.com

some pictures
/main/page_militaria__collectibles_germany_hipower.html
http://warrelics.eu/forum/firearms-o...wer-rig-12980/

a list of the most commonly used pistols in service by the Wehrmacht
http://ww2weaponsforum.com/showthrea...German-pistols

seems he knows what he is talking about afik.
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They used nearly everything they can get their hands on, especially the Browning Hi-Power 9mm.
Over 300,000 pistols were made for the Wehrmacht after the FN factory was siezed by Germany.
Yes, Browning HP was common. But it was mostly used Waffen-SS and Fallschirmjäger. And since troops in Stalingrad are purely Wehrmach troops, it has to considered that was the Browning HP common enough.

Also MP34 and MP35 mentioned earlier were widely used, but then again mostly by the Waffen-SS.

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The weapons which were commonly used in Battle of Stalingrad should be in game. Very uncommon weapons or weapons not used at all should not be in game. It´s as simple as that.
I never said, that there should not be any rarer weapons in game. But they have to justified to be in game. And very rare weapons or weapons that were not used at all have hardly a place in the game.

And I think that pretty much everybody will agree with me here. At least if you want a somewhat realistic game.

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The PzB 39 should be the regular german AT weapon in RO until 44, when replaced by the Panzerfaust and the Panzerschrek. For the russians, it'd be nice to be able to choose between PTRD and PTRS.
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FG 42
Extra rare paratrooper only weapon to be used for regular army infantry units? Makes as much as sense as having tactical nuclear rocket launchers or Quake style rocket jumping soldiers in the game with railguns.

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-Gewehr 98
Issue to regular infantry - ignoring Waffen-SS and security units which were both absent during the battle and especially security units barely saw even action - was basically nonexistant. If you saw one used by regular Heer troops it was same as winning in the lottery.

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MP 34
Basically Waffen-SS and military police weapon only, again if you saw one in non-MP or non-WSS use in the frontline it's same as winning in the lottery.

Rare weapons that saw use only once in a blue moon or were limited only to some specific branch only is not really a reason to have them in the game.
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I vote no.

Matt Baker, really how old are you? FYI, I'm 16.
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rare weapons should only be put ingame if they were used extensively or to some measurable level in our target area (Stalingrad); which kinda defeats the definition of them being rare dosent it(oxymoron)?

That being said that actually happened, sort of, cousins opa (grandfather) fought in stalingrad, at one point due to ammo shortages some people were forced to use any weapon they could find, which included muskets. He told a very interesting tale of the soldiers firing the buttons from thier uniforms in the muskets...

that being said, (im not sure if that is true or not...) I still wouldent vote for muskets to be included ingame because while they were used, the numbers employed were so pathetically small that its not worth including. Its like saying that everyone should get a set of ivory gripped colt peacemakers because patton had a pair...
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Wow. How mature. And your age was about 12, I suppose.

At least I hope that it is, since otherwise there´s something wrong in your development of intelligence.
I agree, he just spams the ideas and suggestions forums with stupid ideas in which he put no thought in. Either that, or they have been brought up in many threads before.


As for rare weapons, no, "heroes" should not get extra weapons. Everyone should have equal access to all the weapons.

As for weapon choices, if they fit the time period and were issued in decent numbers, then they should be in.

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rare weapons should only be put ingame if they were used extensively or to some measurable level in our target area (Stalingrad); which kinda defeats the definition of them being rare dosent it(oxymoron)?

That being said that actually happened, sort of, cousins opa (grandfather) fought in stalingrad, at one point due to ammo shortages some people were forced to use any weapon they could find, which included muskets. He told a very interesting tale of the soldiers firing the buttons from thier uniforms in the muskets...

that being said, (im not sure if that is true or not...) I still wouldent vote for muskets to be included ingame because while they were used, the numbers employed were so pathetically small that its not worth including. Its like saying that everyone should get a set of ivory gripped colt peacemakers because patton had a pair...
haha, they did that, man. I see your point.
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I agree, he just spams the ideas and suggestions forums with stupid ideas in which he put not thought in. Either that, or they have been brought up in many threads before.
this ^ nuff said
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