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Old 01-15-2010, 11:02 AM
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Tripwire RO 2010 mapping contest?

My gut feeling the release of the new RO:HOS will be after thanksgiving but before Christmas of 2010, why not host one last contest for the original RO.

A $2000 investment ($1000 valued 1st prize, $750 valued 2nd prize and $250 for 3rd) will draw a lot of interest for the next 3 months as the contest is running and will pay for its self in the long run.

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Old 01-15-2010, 11:40 AM
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If twi would spend another 1000 on Roost. I would rather have them if possibly add some more already custom maps to the default game and fix some bugs/exploits and add some features from KF (like the friends list) to ro.

Remember that even if the prize money would be "only" 1000, the staff cost of twi itself for trying out the maps and making improvements (and legal work) for addition into the game would add a hefty price above it.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:22 PM
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Default No Prize money and maps should be "as is."

No, No, No!

No Prize money! $1000, $750 and $250 VALUED prizes.

No correcting maps, maps should be "as is."

Zetsumei “Reality check” once HOS hits the shelves, OST will start a slow death, maybe one or two years. Just think about the last time any major updates were added to OST or new maps.

HOS is a new version of the engine; maps (New and Old) will not be compatible and I bet you 99.97% that no effort will be towards the old version.

I’m 100% sure Tripwire’s staff loves what they do but financial victory only comes by going forward.

When was the last time Microsoft did an update or patch to DOS 6.2? Do you think they are working on right now?

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Old 01-15-2010, 12:25 PM
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Something like this would be great.
An extra few high quality maps would really give the game some extra life.
Look at the difference the last contest did for us. We ended up with top quality maps like Zhit, Tcherkassy & Leningrad, which are regularly played in public and clan wars.

I appreciate judging maps takes time, but maybe a panel from the community could be drafted in to help judging / testing etc.

I agree with the original poster in regards to the release date for HoS, and soemthing like this might just keep the community ticking over.

The contest could have a theme as well (i.e. Small urban based maps </selfish>).
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:49 PM
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Well, if there is gonna be one, I advise the contestants to check if they have to pay taxes for their prizes. I have experience in that matter :P
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:52 PM
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I say that rather than die a slow painfull death once RO:HOS comes out i think that once RO:HOS comes out roost will be similar to how active the mod is. Aka ROOSt will get something probably more similar to a hearth attack, atleast that is what i expect (people will continue to play but i wouldnt be surprised if the max players per day would become 1/5th of the current amounts or less instantly).

If there is anything that ROOST needs most its a final patch if you ask me resolving primarily bugs and exploits that can be abused. There are so many great maps already in the community that are never played. I just don't see the sense in another mapping contest for a game that will only has got to live till the release of HOS, and for letting mappers create maps that will hardly get any playtime.

And if anything from a personal point of view i would rather have mappers use the time till hos to learn how to map on the udk and start making maps for RO:HOS. Especially as custom maps in ROOST as this moment have a horrible attach rate for servers and mostly empty the servers.

Anything added to Roost now should pretty much only be for the period till RO:HOS releases. And i think a final patch getting rid of the commonly used bugs and exploits would be of the highest value in that sense.

I would rather have one last mappack then with simply all the great maps that have been created since the last contest and give some of those a price, especially as they did it without any eye of benefit. As the longer the devs would wait with something like this the more it would be a wasted effort for both the mappers as the players.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:59 PM
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No, No, No!

No Prize money! $1000, $750 and $250 VALUED prizes.

No correcting maps, maps should be "as is."

Zetsumei “Reality check” once HOS hits the shelves, OST will start a slow death, maybe one or two years. Just think about the last time any major updates were added to OST or new maps.
I know, shocking, but I'm gonna back Z on this one.... There is no guarantee that Ostfront will have a slow, gradual death once RO HOS comes out, because even though Half-Life 2, Day of Defeat Source, Team Fortress 2 Source and Counter Strike Source have all been out for years now..... thousands of players still play the originals online all the time and there are still hundreds of available servers for each of those games..... which have been around since 1998.

Over a decade now has gone by and still people play those games.

Just because the RO mod died off, doesn't mean you can use that as a comparison to a full retail game.

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HOS is a new version of the engine; maps (New and Old) will not be compatible and I bet you 99.97% that no effort will be towards the old version.
Then why try and make a contest to make more maps for something you already think is going to die soon and not start designing maps for the new game?

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I’m 100% sure Tripwire’s staff loves what they do but financial victory only comes by going forward.
Then once again, why waste their finances on a contest for a game you believe they already abandoned?

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When was the last time Microsoft did an update or patch to DOS 6.2? Do you think they are working on right now?
Bad example.... perhaps you should review my examples.

I too would prefer an official patch fixing many of the current issues then another bunch of maps with the same gameplay issues not patched.

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Granted I always enjoy a new map here and there for a game and if I had more free time I'd love to work on a few new maps myself, but if resources are limited for the Devs, I'd much rather them focus on a patch then a new map contest.

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Old 01-15-2010, 07:08 PM
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I would not mind seeing some community maps officially released like they did with Leningrad.

Outside of that, I don't think it would be practical.

Did they really give away $1000 in the past for a contest?
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Its just for me mapping contests make the most sense when the goal is to both give the community new maps and attract new mappers. The mappers for this game deserve a lot of credit for the maps created. And would rather see any prizing out of maps made between that contest and now, rather than a completely new mapping contest.

On the other hand i absolutely hope to see a mapping, and mutator contest for RO:HoS. For KF, TWI put in some awesome mapping contests and I hope to see that trend continuing with HOS.
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If TW is still planning for another update, I would love to see some community maps, or even mods, included. To me, this would be the biggest impact TW could make for ROOst without committing much of their staff away from HOS. Even just including community maps takes testing and polishing, some of which will fall on TW. A mapping contest is a step above that and will require even more TW resources to make it happen.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:21 PM
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If TW is still planning for another update, I would love to see some community maps, or even mods, included. To me, this would be the biggest impact TW could make for ROOst without committing much of their staff away from HOS. Even just including community maps takes testing and polishing, some of which will fall on TW. A mapping contest is a step above that and will require even more TW resources to make it happen.
In that sense it would be lovely to see CC included if only it were still alive.
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The would be a great idea but i think it should be added as a second map pack. It should be released about a month or two after the release. To keep to people know about the game about the game up.

The standard maps from tripwire should be realistic and correct. but the fan made maps could be a little more free don’t you think. I don’t care so much for if its not really happened that way, just as that just as its fun.
And guys remember we can’t just make MP we can make cooperative maps against a few bot squads, you lone sniper killing them one by one. Maybe putting up nade traps. Well now I’m getting to far away forget that ( even if its sounds cool) ,big time shooting with mg. Lots of stuff you can make. fan made maps dosent have to be in stalingrad or do they???????? what you guys think.

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Old 01-18-2010, 04:49 PM
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note this suggestion was for RO:Ostfront and not RO:HoS. Aka for the game that is already out and available for purchache for 9.99 in your local steam store.
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