Recruiting on other clans servers

[TAW_HUNTER]

We've just had another clan trying to recruit on our server. What's your views, please keep it clean and mature guys.

[Nagels]

It's just not the done thing, that's my view on it.

[worluk]

I wouldnt care for the recruiting. As long as someone doesnt spam " xxxx looking for new members" every 3 seconds.

If you think the guy the "recruiter" is talking to is good, then you should've approached him earlier...

[JudgeMental]

Its rude, simple as that. Perhaps if you have an agreement with another clan (ie they do realism only and you do out of the box only) then NP but it just strikes me as rude to visit someone elses 'club' and start spamming for membership to yours.

[wolfhound338]

Nein!

[Tomcat_ha]

I dont mind where someone is recruiting as long as he isnt spamming and offensive. Also i think if you know that a other clan fits the guy you try to recruit better then you should suggest them that.

For example who likes to have fun and not play in a real squad thing can best join icm. A guy wants somewhat more strict squad. Can join Core. Someone who wants to play in a clan that wants to win matches and such can best join fmj, 13th and such. If you want a realism clan then you can join fgj. If you are a wannabe nazi from the US then there are 20 ss divisions you can join. Ofcourse this all changes with the nationality of the guy who searches for a clan.

[flook]

Originally Posted by Tomcat_ha

For example who likes to have fun and not play in a real squad thing can best join icm.

What are you trying to say

recruiting on someone elses server without their permission is rude and shows immaturity and lack of respect.

[mein teil]

I dont mind recruiting on my server. See it's not rude as long as you dont spam. 2 times during a map round is fine. What most people do not realize is that this is a small comminity and that if people cant get on other servers they that means less clan, less battle, and in the end the game suffers.
No I recruited on a few servers and was asked to request to be able to recruit and that was fine and that is what I did.

If you dont spam you should be able to recruit away

[Borat]

This issue is one that really gets me. What is the big deal with recruiting on ANY server? What harm is it doing? So you are the one renting the server and someone comes on and says "My clan is recruiting".

What normally happens then is someone shouts "recruiting is not allowed on this server". So you ask "why?" This seems to cause some confusion with the admin(s). They normally reply with "because it's our server and we don't allow it". Now wtf does that mean exactly??? Fair enough rules are rules but when your reason for not allowing recruiting is simply "because it's our server".... well that takes the biscuit.

Some "popular" clans enforce this rule and give the above excuse. However, if you go onto one of the more "mature" and "reputable" servers ( {Core}, 13th Panzer Div, |Ez25| etc etc) you will find that recruitment is fine as long as you don't spam. In fact some actively encourage recruiting.

The more clans out there, the better for the whole community. Imagine there were only 20 servers out there and only 2 or 3 allowed recruiting. How long would it take for the community to die?

I say to those that do not allow recruiting. Either come up with a proper reason or get a life. If you have this a rule for the sake of it, you need to come off your ego trip.

[Zetsumei]

I've always been a supporter of the community and allow people to recruit on servers. The first message i ever put in the core serverspam mutator was:

"Recruiting is allowed in here, just don't spam"

I know how crap it can be not having your own server or not being able to get it filled, especially in the mod time, when everybody only played on the dbduk server in europe. And they didn't allow ppl to recruit on their servers, and always kicked people with the highest score when new members joined because the biggest chance would be that they would be clan people. And they themselves didn't play in clanmatches because all clans were full of cheaters...

Alot of people thought of clanners as elitist bastards, while one some clans probably were like that while others just wanted to have fun and play in a friendly setting, with a equality amongst all members.

That was the reason i joined core and left core later on and joined IcM.

But we created the Core 32 ppl server we knew one thing, we want a server thats friendly for the ro clanning community and the rest aswell. And i'm sure that all other clans basically wanted a server where they could friendly play without the bull**** of dbduk.

Rules we had originally were.

Don't kick other players if you want to play on your own server even though you pay for it and they don't (steven later changed this although it was later added the default roladder rules ....)

Let other clans recruit, and help the community and opponents to play grow.

Certain naming rules, that this forum originally had aswell concerning the use of ss names clans and squads thesame with nkvd. Cause of respect for history, and in respect for all the people that suffered from them.

And some other things.

Apparently i'm coming from a different community now though, were ppl preferred realism, people helped other clanners instead of closing them out, and where people respected people by not using names of units that caused certain atrocities, and definately didn't praise them into heaven.

So if you feel like recruiting for your clan you can always join the Suomi & DFN server by me server :P

[Tankrider]

If you are someone's guest, in this case a player on their RO server, conducting yourself in accordance with their wishes and a request to not recruit on their server IS the "mature" and "reputable" thing to do.

[Eisenberg]

I ask for the persons Xfire or AIM if we are interested but we hardly recruit in anyones server its all done over in this section or on our forums.

I wouldn't care if another unit wanted to recruit in our server as long as they do not spam they're site 20 times its fine.

[JudgeMental]

Admins out there tend to spend half their time looking at messages on the server, looking for TK's, looking for bad behaviour and so on. I know I do. A lot of this stuff is beyond their ability to control, one thing they can enforce is the no recruiting stance. I've been on a server when someones started recruiting. The next thing is people asking them to repeat details, people moaning about it, people leaving the server to conduct an MSN conversation about being inducted etc etc. I stand by my original stance, its rude. I don't make the rules because I have a power complex I make them because I want peeps to have a good time on the server with no deliberate TK's, no needless distractions, no bad behaviour and no spamming about recruitment.

[Zetsumei]

You don't want to know how much time i've spend in the webadmin console...

I'm talking about the ONLY server people played on in the mod in europe (USA was the Cia/Cor server). Basically we could do whatever we wanted and enforce whatever rule we liked and people would still play on it. We just cared more about letting people have a good time and enriching the community, than complain about people that just find someone on the server they like.

Spamming and Recruiting are different things ...

The next thing is people asking them to repeat details, people moaning about it, people leaving the server to conduct an MSN conversation about being inducted etc etc.

Yeah back then the ppl of DBDUK complained in the server about a clan recruiting, thats why i was kind enough to use my microphone, and admin messages that recruiting was allowed in there...

[Nagels]

It's akin to waltzing into someones front room when they're watching a match and drinking beer with their mates.......then proceeding to start guzzling beer without being offered.......

Touch my beer.........feel my boot.....

[Zetsumei]

Originally Posted by Nagels

It's akin to waltzing into someones front room when they're watching a match and drinking beer with their mates.......then proceeding to start guzzling beer without being offered.......

Touch my beer.........feel my boot.....

Its rather the opposite, its more like someone that recruits is offering another person a beer. Mind you you weren't in a room with people you knew.

What you talk about would be a good example. When someone joins a clanserver and steals away a clanned player and the clanserver itself..
Not like someone coming it seeing someone he likes that the clan itself showed no interest in, and asks him to become part of his family.

[Nagels]

It boils down to not being right in my opinion.

There are various forums for recruiting .....plus every clanserver has their own recruitment message.

For a guy to come and start recruiting ppl on a server other than his own is tacky.

[Amsel]

Originally Posted by Tomcat_ha

If you are a wannabe nazi from the US then there are 20 ss divisions you can join.

explain please....

[JudgeMental]

Knowing Tomcat I would suggest it was meant as a joke , though it didn't translate that well. I imagine he'll be posting soon to clear that up.

[{Core}Steven]

Recruiting on our servers has allowed been allowed and encouraged.
Maybe it stems back from the mod days when we didnt have much resources as we do now and tried to help out.
Bug I really don't mind clans getting new guys on our server.