What if Germany won WW2......

[Sgt.Rock]

What if they won? and lets say over a few decades after the war, things eventually developed into sort of EU or united states.


How technologically advanced do you think we would be?


At the end of the war, they had (either in testing, finished or prototype) a stealth bomber (like the B2, it was a flying wing, and that was finished in like 1989?), Jets, Guided long range rockets, supposed flying saucer technology, a nuclear program, advanced aircraft desingn (forward swept wings).


Not to mention everything else, like what I cant name, things that werent revealed or destroyed to cover up, or other things.

What if all the scientists that got split between the US and Russia were kept together in germany?

If they continued working how much farther would we be?

[King Ragnar]

The Fact is they didnt, we won, thus we do not need to think what life would have been like if they had we must think what life is like now....

[User Name]

Things went better when it comes to technology because the wars winner's took the scientists, and their technology and allowed them more freedom than they had under Nazi Germany.

Even though the United States, and the Soviet Union split them up they still did more because they had the budgets of two superpowers who were in direct competition with each other.

We would not have made it to the moon in 1969 under the control of the Nazis.

[Panzer Meyer]

Originally Posted by Sgt.Rock

What if they won?

Good times for sure!
This comes to mind:

[Sgt.Rock]

Originally Posted by User Name

Things went better when it comes to technology because the wars winner's took the scientists, and their technology and allowed them more freedom than they had under Nazi Germany.

Even though the United States, and the Soviet Union split them up they still did more because they had the budgets of two superpowers who were in direct competition with each other.

We would not have made it to the moon in 1969 under the control of the Nazis.

Yea, but why did it take44 more years to get a B-2 bomber when they had one almost ready for production?

[Boogerhead]

If you're only looking to judge technological progress, well, it might have been lessened. Competition matters; witness the changes in, say, tanks between 1920 and 1940, and then between 1940 and 1945.

If Germany had truly conquered the entire world, there wouldn't be that competition. As it was, the United States quickly found the Soviet Union to compete against, leading to continued developments in aircraft, nuclear weapons, etcetera.

If you want to get curious, check out books by Harry Turtledove. "Days of Infamy" looks at what might have happened if the Japanese invaded Hawaii, while "In the Presence of Mine Enemies" looks at a victorious Germany. There's weirder books, too, that look at the effects of competition; there's actually a whole weird series about the outcome of World War II if .. er ... aliens had landed.

[DraKon2k]

I believe we would be much more advanced, technologically, especcially because of the flying saucer thing.

[Sir. Hoppum]

There'd be no such thing as an ethnic minority

[DingBat]

Originally Posted by Sgt.Rock

Yea, but why did it take44 more years to get a B-2 bomber when they had one almost ready for production?

They didn't. They had a flying wing design. That doesn't make it stealthy in and of itself. They didn't have the advanced materials or the know how to design a stealth bomber in 1944.

Also, you guys need to realize that the nazi's penchant for spawning research projects for everything under the sun was one of the reasons they lost the war in the first place. They didn't NEED a stealth bomber in 1944.

[D3terioNation]

Was there a similar thread that turned into a massive flamewar and was eventually closed..?

Germany lost, get over it...

[DraKon2k]

Originally Posted by D3terioNation

Was there a similar thread that turned into a massive flamewar and was eventually closed..?

Germany lost, get over it...

That doesn't mean that we aren't allowed to discuss it. Also that thread just turned into a massive flamewar because of your and BuddyLee's unrespectful behaviour. And FFS, just because you won the war you're not like something better.

It already turns out that most of the americans/brits here already want to destroy the thread, so please just let it go and don't be an ***, so this thread won't get closed as well.^

Anyways - I'm wondering how they could've "won" the war. They could've gotten the SU to surrender and maybe invaded GB(what I rather doubt), or they just "defeated" the SU and then made peace with the allies.

[Ruprecht13]

I agree; the problem lies in defining how Germany would have "won" WWII. There are so many possible scenarios each with a separate ramification for ensuing political results that a simple "What if Germany won?" is irrelevant.
I do think however, that if they hadn't signed treaties with Japan, had successfully conquered U.S.S.R. and subjugated U.K. by threat or coercion, we would probably see a lot more schnitzel these days.

And I mean a lot.

[DraKon2k]

Originally Posted by Ruprecht13

I agree; the problem lies in defining how Germany would have "won" WWII. There are so many possible scenarios each with a separate ramification for ensuing political results that a simple "What if Germany won?" is irrelevant.
I do think however, that if they hadn't signed treaties with Japan, had successfully conquered U.S.S.R. and subjugated U.K. by threat or coercion, we would probably see a lot more schnitzel these days.

And I mean a lot.

You know that the Schnitzel is austrian, right?

Well, back then it probably didn't matter anyways :P

[Ruprecht13]

Originally Posted by DraKon2k

You know that the Schnitzel is austrian, right?

Well, back then it probably didn't matter anyways :P

Fine. Some sort of wurst then. Or spaetzel?

Please advise.

[Panzer Meyer]

Originally Posted by DraKon2k

You know that the Schnitzel is austrian, right?

If Germany won, Schnitzel was a German invention and is, along with electricity, lightbulbs, cars, planes, trains, steam engine, cotton gin, etc...lol

[Seth_Soldier]

Stop fantasm, 3rd reich can't win the war ! it was economically and technically and ideologically impossible ! Germans were not supermen !

What if thulé have opened an astral gate which would have spread demon in our dimension?

Most of the What if are useless and when some are interresting we don't have the information to speculate further ...

[Ruprecht13]

I think we have made the point that Germany "winning" the war was indeed gastronomically possible. All that remains is to determine the larderstock of the greater German Empire.

[DraKon2k]

Originally Posted by Seth_Soldier

Stop fantasm, 3rd reich can't win the war ! it was economically and technically and ideologically impossible ! Germans were not supermen !

What if thulé have opened an astral gate which would have spread demon in our dimension?

Most of the What if are useless and when some are interresting we don't have the information to speculate further ...

Way to get friends.

[Wolfstuka]

someone mentioned that we wouldnt have gotten to the moon in 69 well maybe but i believe that the nazis or was it Braun idk actually were planning to eventually go to the moon and had all the scientists not been split up and such humans might have got there earlier.....

[D3terioNation]

Originally Posted by DraKon2k

That doesn't mean that we aren't allowed to discuss it. Also that thread just turned into a massive flamewar because of your and BuddyLee's unrespectful behaviour. And FFS, just because you won the war you're not like something better.

LoL I only posted once before the thread was closed