July 27th Patch Notes - Page 6

Iskatyel · #**101** 07-31-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Temporary

I just don't understand why some terrible newbies (who have less kills than me !) are asking me to move to a specific location, to clear a fortified position on the frontline or take out a nasty MG. Why can't they do that by themselves ? Can't they just learn to play and stop annoying me ?

A sniper is never supposed to be right next to the spearhead, taking off entrenched enemy MGs and bolt rifles when they peek out to open fire on the sprinting troops rushing to the objective area.

Sorry to say that the SNIPER JOB is to kill the pesky mg, and the pesky enemy sniper. And in real life, it was kill the Commander.

Regards

Faust.br · #**102** 08-03-2012, 07:20 PM

Excellent patch. Brought me back for more RO2 fun!

On a side note, the amount of crypto-nazis and crypto-fascists here is really annoying.

MeFirst · #**103** 08-03-2012, 08:10 PM

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I just don't understand why some terrible newbies (who have less kills than me !) are asking me to move to a specific location, to clear a fortified position on the frontline or take out a nasty MG. Why can't they do that by themselves ? Can't they just learn to play and stop annoying me ?

I don't undersand why some terrible players (who have less kills than me) who are playing the sniper class think they are playing another game and have to sit on a specific location the entire round. Why cant they shoot annoying targets like machine gunners or rifleman and still move to the front and take out targets of opportunity? Can't they just learn to play and stop annoying me?

*Sarcasm mode off*

Temporary · #**104** 08-03-2012, 10:12 PM

@Iskatyel @MeFirst : that was some bad sarcasm that went off-topic, please ignore that post and post your feedback on the July 27th Patch.

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Originally Posted by Ducky

Since when is this the bug report section?

I will repeat what Comrade Kaiser clearly said (for those that missed it)

Bug reports should go to the bug reports section. In here it's just spam.

Hm, sorry for that but I thought that mentioning the bugs I encountered after the patch would either:
1) Confirm a bug is still there, after that patch
2) Report a new bug (or a known bug now happening more often) caused by that patch

There doesn't seem to be a dedicated thread for each patch in the Bug Report section, and it is pretty common that a slight change in the code is not mentioned in the changelog (especially if it's really technical), so if a bug is caused/changed by a patch, it's pretty hard to notice it's coming from that patch.

...

ps: I noticed there was several Allies spawn points in Commissar's House that could be selected as an artillery spot (when that spawn is active) by the German team, causing the infamous "arty on spawn", also known as basera** in the Battlefield series.
Is it a feedback, a glitch, or a bug, and where does that information belongs to ? I'm a little confused :x

Ducky · #**105** 08-04-2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Temporary

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Hm, sorry for that but I thought that mentioning the bugs I encountered after the patch would either:
1) Confirm a bug is still there, after that patch
2) Report a new bug (or a known bug now happening more often) caused by that patch

There doesn't seem to be a dedicated thread for each patch in the Bug Report section, and it is pretty common that a slight change in the code is not mentioned in the changelog (especially if it's really technical), so if a bug is caused/changed by a patch, it's pretty hard to notice it's coming from that patch.
---SNIP---

I understand your point, but these patch threads are often forgotten after a few weeks. Who does read the old patch threads? For that reason it would be wiser to post the bug reports in the bug report section. Just add the path date to the report as a reference. You can put a link to the report(s) here in the patch announcement thread. Something like "I found some bugs after installing this patch. The bug reports can be found here". Then at least your bugs will be reported where they should be and won't fade away in an announcement thread and still people reading the announcement thread can find them without having to use search functions.

WolfyBrandon · #**106** 08-05-2012, 01:50 PM

Pardon my newbness... but how big is this update?

I launched steam and it says update paused... I found out the drive I have it installed is full, so I've cleared like 3gb of space and it's still saying I'm out of space when it tries to update... If this patch is like 10gb or something I'm going to have to uninstall something.

WolfyBrandon

Mike_Nomad · #**107** 08-05-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfyBrandon

Pardon my newbness... but how big is this update?

I launched steam and it says update paused... I found out the drive I have it installed is full, so I've cleared like 3gb of space and it's still saying I'm out of space when it tries to update... If this patch is like 10gb or something I'm going to have to uninstall something.

WolfyBrandon

Almost 5gb

=GG= Mr Moe · #**108** 08-05-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfyBrandon

Pardon my newbness... but how big is this update?

I launched steam and it says update paused... I found out the drive I have it installed is full, so I've cleared like 3gb of space and it's still saying I'm out of space when it tries to update... If this patch is like 10gb or something I'm going to have to uninstall something.

WolfyBrandon

Have you tried getting rid of those extra and space hogging restore points set by Windows?

Temporary · #**109** 08-05-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducky

[...] For that reason it would be wiser to post the bug reports in the bug report section. Just add the path date to the report as a reference. You can put a link to the report(s) here in the patch announcement thread.
Something like "I found some bugs after installing this patch. The bug reports can be found here". Then at least your bugs will be reported where they should be and won't fade away in an announcement thread and still people reading the announcement thread can find them without having to use search functions.

Oh, that sounds a lot more smart and logic than I could ever admit - I'll follow this procedure from now on

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Originally Posted by WolfyBrandon

Pardon my newbness... but how big is this update?

I launched steam and it says update paused... I found out the drive I have it installed is full, so I've cleared like 3gb of space and it's still saying I'm out of space when it tries to update... If this patch is like 10gb or something I'm going to have to uninstall something.

WolfyBrandon

With less than 10 gb available on that drive, the resulting HDD lesser performance will inevitably affect how well the game is running, you should definitely free some more space from that drive then run your OS (Windows ?) defragmenter on it.

BigGaayAl · #**110** 08-08-2012, 03:36 AM

One year now. Scroll button on squad screen still not fixed. This is outrageous. On release it was stated there would be a squad system.

One year later you can still not normally scroll trough the list after a mapchange so that all the kits are taken by people using the class system.

One year, promised on release, still totally unusable. It is disingenuous to state something will be there on release and then not bother a simple ui fix like simply changing font size. Simply making the letters smaller so that it all would fit on one screen would already solve it.

I am still a fan of the game, I am still playing it. I have had much patience. But if this feature, which I cared about very much before release, is not fixed in the next patch (as stated in the plans, looking at squad system)... I am never believing again, nor ever buying a twi game. At this rate the game will be dead before a scroll bar is fixed!

WHY? have you fixed the scroll bar on a simple thing like the server list, when you can trough steam see the players in the server already, but not fixed the squadlist scroll bar... which is way way way more important, and affects gameplay, in fact hampers team-play hugely.

Nikita · #**111** 08-08-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigGaayAl

One year now. Scroll button on squad screen still not fixed. This is outrageous. On release it was stated there would be a squad system.

One year later you can still not normally scroll trough the list after a mapchange so that all the kits are taken by people using the class system.

One year, promised on release, still totally unusable. It is disingenuous to state something will be there on release and then not bother a simple ui fix like simply changing font size. Simply making the letters smaller so that it all would fit on one screen would already solve it.

I am still a fan of the game, I am still playing it. I have had much patience. But if this feature, which I cared about very much before release, is not fixed in the next patch (as stated in the plans, looking at squad system)... I am never believing again, nor ever buying a twi game. At this rate the game will be dead before a scroll bar is fixed!

WHY? have you fixed the scroll bar on a simple thing like the server list, when you can trough steam see the players in the server already, but not fixed the squadlist scroll bar... which is way way way more important, and affects gameplay, in fact hampers team-play hugely.

Kill the drama. We all want it fixed, and we all know it will happen eventually. If it makes you so mad you want to leave, that's your perogative, but don't waste space here with meaningless ultimatums.

A bug is a bug. I can see why this one isn't as high-priority as others. Bugs happen. It's the farthest thing from "outrageous" I can think of.

Verluste · #**112** 08-10-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Kill the drama. We all want it fixed, and we all know it will happen eventually. If it makes you so mad you want to leave, that's your perogative, but don't waste space here with meaningless ultimatums.

A bug is a bug. I can see why this one isn't as high-priority as others. Bugs happen. It's the farthest thing from "outrageous" I can think of.

Drama?
This is what should be in the game in the first place.
Ever heard of consumer awereness? You dont mind faulty products?

If TWI was a car seller they would have been bankrupt in no time.
Luckily other (indie-)game developers do a far better job in fixing, patching and delivering better products from release.

=GG= Mr Moe · #**113** 08-10-2012, 09:03 AM

I never noticed the scroll button problem. Where was the bug report on that?

danh · #**114** 08-10-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by =GG= Mr Moe

I never noticed the scroll button problem. Where was the bug report on that?

Mr.Cloud · #**115** 08-10-2012, 02:49 PM

Considering that squad based teamwork is so powerful in this game, not being able to join my friends' squad is very frakking annoying. How difficult can the fix be?

=GG= Mr Moe · #**116** 08-10-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by danh

Ah, I see there were some reports. My post was about the server browser, not the squad selection menu.

danh · #**117** 08-10-2012, 09:53 PM

No problem. The real issue is when will these scrolling bugs be fixed?

=GG= Mr Moe · #**118** 08-11-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by danh

No problem. The real issue is when will these scrolling bugs be fixed?

You are still better off going into the bug report section and bumping those topics there as they are more likely to be read.

BigGaayAl · #**119** 08-11-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Verluste

Drama?
This is what should be in the game in the first place.
Ever heard of consumer awereness? You dont mind faulty products?

If TWI was a car seller they would have been bankrupt in no time.
Luckily other (indie-)game developers do a far better job in fixing, patching and delivering better products from release.

Thank you.

I do not think my post was dramatic, I am simply a very patient consumer who is pleading to add features I was promised for the money I paid. One can argue that my wording was bad, but hardly that my plea is unreasonable.

Im very very happy to see that other people care about this. I have been trying to draw attention to this issue since launch, but it has escaped the eye of the community for now. Most people had the reaction to ask for getting rid of the squad and squadleader spawn system because it doesn't work well, which is why most players don't use it.

I hope people will start asking to fix the whole squad system instead of axing it.
What we should get imo, is a system like this:

*Axe squad selection screen. It is no good for new players not to know even in which squad they are. It is better if they have to hand pick it, so at least they can see who is their squadleader and what type of squad they are in.

*Change the spawn system so that you always know where you will appear; either on pt1, pt2, Squadleader. Currently you select one, but when you select squadleader and he is dead you wil spawn on a random fixed spawn, often a different one than your squadleader===> not teamwork for that spawn, run off, die , try again.

*Give the squadleader knowledge of wheter people can spawn on him and roughly where they can spawn. THis avoids teammates spawning in the line of fire, and also helps with the problems in the previous point.

If these problems are solved, then this game will be a totally different experience. It will have that 'band of brothers' feel, which it currently lacks most of the time.

Ducky · #**120** 08-11-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigGaayAl

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I hope people will start asking to fix the whole squad system instead of axing it.
What we should get imo, is a system like this:

*Axe squad selection screen. It is no good for new players not to know even in which squad they are. It is better if they have to hand pick it, so at least they can see who is their squadleader and what type of squad they are in.

*Change the spawn system so that you always know where you will appear; either on pt1, pt2, Squadleader. Currently you select one, but when you select squadleader and he is dead you wil spawn on a random fixed spawn, often a different one than your squadleader===> not teamwork for that spawn, run off, die , try again.

*Give the squadleader knowledge of wheter people can spawn on him and roughly where they can spawn. THis avoids teammates spawning in the line of fire, and also helps with the problems in the previous point.
---SNIP---

Then post it in the ideas and suggestions section. That is the place where you should make suggestions cos in here they will bleed to death and nobody gains anything by that.

Please use the dedicated sections for bug reports and ideas and suggestions if you have any. And if a bug report already exists, but is old and lost on the last pages, then bump it to bring it back on top.

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