Increased Stamina Pool - Classic Only Round 2

[Yoshiro]

It is, it just came too late for the big patch.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Thanks for the info Yoshiro!

[hekuball]

Although I like certain aspects of Classic - sway and time to ADS, the sprint speed isn't one of them. I often find myself compensating for the feeling of moonwalk like slowness by crouch-sprinting instead, this at least gives the illusion of speed I crave.

[Nezzer]

I wonder why this thread has been forgotten.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Its not forgotten, at least by a few of us.

I like Classic mode and think there should be some changes, but not everyone agrees on what they may be. Still its fairly good.

HOWEVER, its almost universally agreed that Stamina needs a boost and its not a big thing to ask for. Since TWI has acknowledged it, at least in the past, its the one small change that would add improvement to this mode.

[Korn-Y]

If TWI increases Stamina, sway needs to be increased too. If stamina gets a boost, we will get out of breath less often, so we will have less sway everytime...? Bad.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

There is plenty of sway enough already, what do you want us to be like, a five year old holding a 20 pound rifle? You're gonna want to change so many variables that it will take another year before a stamina update comes out. Lets just change the stamina for now and see how it goes

No need to get ridiculous Sheldon...

[Korn-Y]

If you are out of breath you cannot aim "like a pro" with a 4/5Kg weapon, ammo, your stuff and the tiredness. Sway we have currently is already ridiculous...
Why always using over-exaggeration when someone talk about ROost, sway, zoom or recoil? Realism is already there if you are looking for a perfect Rambo soldier 'whoneverhasfearinhiswholelife' (It is easy to use over-exaggeration, eih ) I have seen you playing on RGN server today, so, you already know the way to go, good.

I don't take care if TWI take 1 year to change some values in Classic. It's not my fault if they cut RO's roots last year to attrack more consumers. Go ahead, change whatever you want in Classic, but keep in mind that people who play Classic don't want a fast, accurate, fearless soldier like you can have in Realism, Arma2, and some other FPS. I hope TWI will retrieve RO roots and that envy to make a good game they had in the past.

So, I repeat, if we get stamina boost, we have to get more sway. Realism players will certernly find me ridiculous, you're right, but not the other part of players.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Originally Posted by Korn-Y

If you are out of breath you cannot aim "like a pro" with a 4/5Kg weapon, ammo, your stuff and the tiredness. Sway we have currently is already ridiculous...
Why always using over-exaggeration when someone talk about ROost, sway, zoom or recoil? Realism is already there if you are looking for a perfect Rambo soldier 'whoneverhasfearinhiswholelife' (It is easy to use over-exaggeration, eih ) I have seen you playing on RGN server today, so, you already know the way to go, good.

I don't take care if TWI take 1 year to change some values in Classic. It's not my fault if they cut RO's roots last year to attrack more consumers. Go ahead, change whatever you want in Classic, but keep in mind that people who play Classic don't want a fast, accurate, fearless soldier like you can have in Realism, Arma2, and some other FPS. I hope TWI will retrieve RO roots and that envy to make a good game they had in the past.

So, I repeat, if we get stamina boost, we have to get more sway. Realism players will certernly find me ridiculous, you're right, but not the other part of players.

All I know is that I have a lot of sway when I am out of stamina (in Classic). Any more and I will be shooting at the moon

[Korn-Y]

Originally Posted by =GG= Mr Moe

All I know is that I have a lot of sway when I am out of stamina (in Classic). Any more and I will be shooting at the moon

Do you have real arguments or only over-exaggerated sentences?

[Cwivey]

The sway is fine, and the added amount of stamina would be very marginal. You probably wont notice the difference in aiming, but you will notice you can get a teeny bit further faster.

Sway's already large enough when not out of stamina. :X

[Korn-Y]

If the Stamina boost would be very marginal, I don't see where is the problem for a very marginal sway boost too. Classic is already a lot casualised, don't make it more...

If you find sway already too hard in Classic, then, that means Classic isn't the right mode for you, try to go in Realism.
Soon you'll ask for the return of bandages for Classic? the sprint key zoom? or unlocks?

Originally Posted by Yoshiro

RO Classic -
A new game mode has been added which has been modified to play more similar to the original Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45.

Well, I don't know if you have played ROost, but in this game you were not able to sprint and then aim properly. you were not able to aim for 10 min and you didn't have an unfair zoom. Classic doesn't correspond to his own definition, and you want him to be more like Realism?
Anyway, TWI isn't listening to us, so, we can debate for a long moment.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Originally Posted by Korn-Y

Do you have real arguments or only over-exaggerated sentences?

Your argument is opinion and thus can be considered over-exaggerated as well.

When I run out of stamina in Classic and raise my rifle to my shoulders, it is swaying so much I would have a hard time hitting a small building at 50 meters.

Now, do you need actual building dimensions or can you fathom what I am saying without them?

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Originally Posted by Korn-Y

If the Stamina boost would be very marginal, I don't see where is the problem for a very marginal sway boost too. Classic is already a lot casualised, don't make it more...

If you find sway already too hard in Classic, then, that means Classic isn't the right mode for you, try to go in Realism.
Soon you'll ask for the return of bandages for Classic? the sprint key zoom? or unlocks?



Well, I don't know if you have played ROost, but in this game you were not able to sprint and then aim properly. you were not able to aim for 10 min and you didn't have an unfair zoom. Classic doesn't correspond to his own definition, and you want him to be more like Realism?
Anyway, TWI isn't listening to us, so, we can debate for a long moment.

So, it comes down to the fact, that you just wanted a reskinned ROOST. Next time just say that up front and we can skip all the back and forth.

Oh yeah, and go play ROOST...

[Korn-Y]

Originally Posted by =GG= Mr Moe

So, it comes down to the fact, that you just wanted a reskinned ROOST. Next time just say that up front and we can skip all the back and forth.

Oh yeah, and go play ROOST...

Yeah, a reskinned RO41-45 with a small IS zoom, less sway and recoil should be awesome for me, and people with b*llz. A casualised game like you want? No thanks.
Moreover, nowadays there is more people playing ROOST/DH than people playing classic... that's strange no? Maybe because everybody right here play Realism and don't want to see Classic as good as ROOST/DH because you don't like Hardcore games or ROOST is too hard for you?

@ I just don't see why we have currently a ridiculous stupid low sway, the one you are defending&loving.

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Originally Posted by Korn-Y

Yeah, a reskinned RO41-45 with a small IS zoom, less sway and recoil should be awesome for me, and people with b*llz. A casualised game like you want? No thanks.
Moreover, nowadays there is more people playing ROOST/DH than people playing classic... that's strange no? Maybe because everybody right here play Realism and don't want to see Classic as good as ROOST/DH because you don't like Hardcore games or ROOST is too hard for you?

If you have to proclaim you have 'b*llz', you apparently don't have any.

And for the record, I don't want a casualized game, I just don't see the need for ridiculously stupid sway like you are suggesting

EDIT: In any case, perhaps you should start a topic on 'Sway' as this topic is more for Stamina increase and getting way off topic

[Nikita]

Hoping an increase in Classic stamina takes place at some point in the very near future... the poll seems quite conclusive and it's been out for some time now...

[r5cya]

Originally Posted by Korn-Y

If you are out of breath you cannot aim "like a pro" with a 4/5Kg weapon, ammo, your stuff and the tiredness. Sway we have currently is already ridiculous...
Why always using over-exaggeration when someone talk about ROost, sway, zoom or recoil?

LOL! did you even think when you wrote that? you exagerate to prove a point and then in the next sentence, accuse someone else of doing it. classic!
if you'll look at the results of the poll, you'll see that less than fifteen people out of a hundred, want stamina left the way it is. that, quite a majority!
interesting that twi went to the trouble to have a poll and then people argue after the facts are in.
looks like you need to start a poll about whether sway should be increased, because stamina is about to be. yoshi said, it just didn't make it in time for the last patch.

p.s. over-exaggeration, is my line. you gotta pay me if you use it here.

[Korn-Y]

"Like a pro" is an expression, and this is not at all an over-exaggeration. I'm happy you have learn something today brah'.

If you don't like that expression just read "Like a pro" = "easily"/"Without any problem", and that's true IG.
Moreover, asking for more sway doesn't mean I don't want more stamina too, like prove that poll

Originally Posted by r5cya

yoshi said, it just didn't make it in time for the last patch.

Yea, the "last" patch. When Yoshi said "the last patch" he was talking about the GOTY patch, not the real "last patch" now (the maps changes patch is the last one)

So, in fact, yea,... LOL!

PS (/off topic) : For RS, I prepare myself for a big disappointment now. I hope beta testers don't give their ideas and sugg about gameplay... no sway, no recoil no thanks

[Nikita]

God is it evident when people haven't even so much as touched a real rifle before...

...but let's just stay on topic. More stamina in Classic needed, agreed? Agreed.