Patriarch Current Health Counter

[codepilot]

Pretty much exactly as stated in the title, had quiet a few people on our servers request some sort of health counter for the patriarch as it gets up into the millions on hp depending on how many players there is and it would be cool to have a counter for that. Basically just a little box that would say something like " Patriarch Current Health: " Nothing fancy. If anyone cares to help me out with this I would appreciate it


Thanks for reading

[Ajk1230]

Well, being able to see the patriarchs health by numbers would more or less be like cheating.

If you want to know how much hp he has left after everyone has died, there is a mutator for that.

[Left 4 Dinner]

Originally Posted by Ajk1230

Well, being able to see the patriarchs health by numbers would more or less be like cheating.

If you want to know how much hp he has left after everyone has died, there is a mutator for that.

What he said. If you want to know what he has as your fighting him, just go commando, or have a commando on your team.

[ro_sauce]

are you guys idiots? this obviously isnt for whitelisting, it's for a custom server, so stop talking like this is going to be put into the regular game.

i've never played 6 man hoe, does the patriarch get over a million hp in that mode?
no?
ok, so then this is for a server with 12+ people playing right? you guys need to think more before lambasting someone's request for their CUSTOM server.

[Left 4 Dinner]

Originally Posted by ro_sauce

are you guys idiots? this obviously isnt for whitelisting, it's for a custom server, so stop talking like this is going to be put into the regular game.

i've never played 6 man hoe, does the patriarch get over a million hp in that mode?
no?
ok, so then this is for a server with 12+ people playing right? you guys need to think more before lambasting someone's request for their CUSTOM server.

I guess we were supppose to know that he was talking about a custom server, with 12 guys, and on hell on earth? Sorry, my clairvoyance isnt working, but Im glad that you know exactly what he's refering to

[EpharGy]

Originally Posted by Left 4 Dinner

I guess we were supppose to know that he was talking about a custom server, with 12 guys, and on hell on earth? Sorry, my clairvoyance isnt working, but Im glad that you know exactly what he's refering to

Millions of HP.

Anyways to the OP, One hasnt been made, my suggestion is to look into how the PatHPLeft mut was made and see if you can adapt that to a new mutator.

[Ajk1230]

Originally Posted by ro_sauce

are you guys idiots? this obviously isnt for whitelisting, it's for a custom server, so stop talking like this is going to be put into the regular game.

i've never played 6 man hoe, does the patriarch get over a million hp in that mode?
no?
ok, so then this is for a server with 12+ people playing right? you guys need to think more before lambasting someone's request for their CUSTOM server.

Thanks for calling me an idiot. How nice of you.

Oh, and regardless of the amount of health or number of players there is, I'd still consider it cheating.

[Left 4 Dinner]

Originally Posted by Ajk1230

Thanks for calling me an idiot. How nice of you.

Oh, and regardless of the amount of health or number of players there is, I'd still consider it cheating.

My thoughts too

[n87]

fine. but who cares about your opinion?
he asked if someone could do this, not if you`re thinking it cheating or not..

[Left 4 Dinner]

Originally Posted by n87

fine. but who cares about your opinion?
he asked if someone could do this, not if you`re thinking it cheating or not..

Because the answer is obviously no. The reason why no one has done it, is because its a form of cheating. Its not just my opinion, but rather what everyone else thinks, thus there was never such a thing added. If the OP wants one, then he can make it.

[Ajk1230]

Originally Posted by n87

fine. but who cares about your opinion?
he asked if someone could do this, not if you`re thinking it cheating or not..

If nobody cared about our opinion, there would be no point in an Ideas and suggestions sub-forum (or even Tactics).

Originally Posted by Left 4 Dinner

Because the answer is obviously no. The reason why no one has done it, is because its a form of cheating. Its not just my opinion, but rather what everyone else thinks, thus there was never such a thing added. If the OP wants one, then he can make it.

Exactly.

[Qon]

If you have that many players then 1 of them qan play qommando, right? Use teamwork.

And guys who qomplain about it being a cheat, qome on isn't being lvl 71 a cheat then? Quz my lvl 71 firebug has a frickin laz0r qannon that kills hundreds of FPs without problem and has so much ammo that I qan't use it all even if I try. 1 canister is enough to kill everything and I reload (if I had the time to use a whole canister) only 3 times, each reload is done in 0.2 seconds. Let him have a mut to see tentacle guys HP bar in real time if he wants it.

So maybe you should ask in mutator forum instead of suggestion and ideas? Think this part is more for unmutated vanilla KF suggestions.

[Spicy]

It sounds like this mutator would just be the Commando's ability to see health bars but with numbers instead of a vague bar. Like how you can see your team's armor/health as a bar but not numbers. The Informative Scoreboard, which shows team HP as a number is whitelisted. So...not sure how this is cheating if similar elements are already in the game. Giving everyone the ability to see Pat health might be a step too much, but I still wouldn't call it cheating.

Then again, if he wants it as a custom mutator for his server, maybe you guys should just leave him alone instead of telling him it's retarded/ cheating. Especially since you probably won't be playing on it.

[Ajk1230]

Originally Posted by Spicy

It sounds like this mutator would just be the Commando's ability to see health bars but with numbers instead of a vague bar. Like how you can see your team's armor/health as a bar but not numbers. The Informative Scoreboard, which shows team HP as a number is whitelisted. So...not sure how this is cheating if similar elements are already in the game. Giving everyone the ability to see Pat health might be a step too much, but I still wouldn't call it cheating.

Then again, if he wants it as a custom mutator for his server, maybe you guys should just leave him alone instead of telling him it's retarded/ cheating. Especially since you probably won't be playing on it.

Things like the informative scoreboard and patriarch hp counter discourage communication. This is a co-op game, people need to communicate. If someone is at 10 hp, they would call for help(unless the medic or other teammates are staring right at them). But, if the medic has the scoreboard up at all times, they can see every players hp by numbers, making the game easier. Not to mention seeing everyones money narrows it down to saying "hey (insert name) i need money" instead of communicating with everyone.

As for the patriarch hp counter, if its for a custom server, fine. But like I said, it discourages communication. It also renders commando obsolete. I can honestly say that when my team has a commando calling out the patriarchs health, he is usually killed before his first heal(occasionally second). Now imagine 20+ people seeing his health and playing more aggressively because of it. Makes the game a lot easier.

[Left 4 Dinner]

Originally Posted by Ajk1230

Things like the informative scoreboard and patriarch hp counter discourage communication. This is a co-op game, people need to communicate. If someone is at 10 hp, they would call for help(unless the medic or other teammates are staring right at them). But, if the medic has the scoreboard up at all times, they can see every players hp by numbers, making the game easier. Not to mention seeing everyones money narrows it down to saying "hey (insert name) i need money" instead of communicating with everyone.

As for the patriarch hp counter, if its for a custom server, fine. But like I said, it discourages communication. It also renders commando obsolete. I can honestly say that when my team has a commando calling out the patriarchs health, he is usually killed before his first heal(occasionally second). Now imagine 20+ people seeing his health and playing more aggressively because of it. Makes the game a lot easier.

Agree, and thats why he should've asked it in the mutators thread area.

[ro_sauce]

this is an ideas and suggestions thread, so he posted it here.

you guy need to take a grain of salt with your purist rantings, just think for a minute:
"Will this affect regular KF?"
"If this is made, will it pass whitelisting/greylisting?"
"What kind of server would this go towards?"

instead of bashing everything.
how else do you think muts are made? from ideas.
i come here, and if i see a suggestion i like, then i make it, and i'm getting sick of you guys crapping all over everything.

[tehmadcap]

Originally Posted by ro_sauce

this is an ideas and suggestions thread, so he posted it here.

you guy need to take a grain of salt with your purist rantings, just think for a minute:
"Will this affect regular KF?"
"If this is made, will it pass whitelisting/greylisting?"
"What kind of server would this go towards?"

instead of bashing everything.
how else do you think muts are made? from ideas.
i come here, and if i see a suggestion i like, then i make it, and i'm getting sick of you guys crapping all over everything.

Modding requests, ideas, and suggestions belong in the modding forum.

"Will this affect regular KF?"
"If this is made, will it pass whitelisting/greylisting?"
"What kind of server would this go towards?"

Questions which would make sense had he posted this thread as a mutator request in the appropriate forum.

[Ajk1230]

Originally Posted by ro_sauce

i come here, and if i see a suggestion i like, then i make it, and i'm getting sick of you guys crapping all over everything.

Sorry, didn't know I was "crapping" all over everything. You have your opinions, I have mine. You think an hp counter is fine, I think otherwise. Does that make you superior over me? No, didnt think so.

[Spicy]

Originally Posted by tehmadcap

Modding requests, ideas, and suggestions belong in the modding forum.

*points to forum navigation at top*

[Blockbot]

for the sake of the mod.

cant you just change all the perks so it have "the commando health bar enabled" on wave 11?

that I believe you can easily mod urself in serverperks v5?