Spawn Protection Timer Countdown

[LordGleedo]

TWI - Any chance a new property could be added to Spawn Protection Volumes that would allow the level designer to set how much time should be afforded the enemy to leave a spawn protection zone when it gets activated?

Property Value of 0 would indicate using the default.
Anything greater than 0 would indicate how much time we want to allow.

This would be very helpful (to me at least).

[Mike_Nomad]

Originally Posted by LordGleedo

TWI - Any chance a new property could be added to Spawn Protection Volumes that would allow the level designer to set how much time should be afforded the enemy to leave a spawn protection zone when it gets activated?

Property Value of 0 would indicate using the default.
Anything greater than 0 would indicate how much time we want to allow.

This would be very helpful (to me at least).

And.... to many of the players - I'm certain.

[Drecks]

Iff I'm correct there was a propertiy for time and killtype.

The problem with this spawnprotection thing is it won't kill you
when the counter reach 0 and it remains visible when you leave
the zone. Its gone when you respawn.

[LordGleedo]

Originally Posted by Drecks

Iff I'm correct there was a propertiy for time and killtype.

That's a property of map boundary volume unfortunately. I thought for a moment when you said that, that I had been a numpty lol.

[Drecks]

Originally Posted by LordGleedo

That's a property of map boundary volume unfortunately. I thought for a moment when you said that, that I had been a numpty lol.

I'm almost convinced this property was there in the spawnprotection volume also prior before they updated it. As before that updat it would not harm my map. I did see the message appear but as it faded away in time. Then an update arrived which made it a problem.

I should work right now

[[TW]Swag]

The spawn protection time and what you are seeking have been hidden from the level designers. We came to this decision based on the need conform all those values to something a player can understand 100% of the time in all the maps.

I am not certain if we plan to make those values available again.

[LordGleedo]

Originally Posted by [TW]Swag

The spawn protection time and what you are seeking have been hidden from the level designers. We came to this decision based on the need conform all those values to something a player can understand 100% of the time in all the maps.

I am not certain if we plan to make those values available again.

OK, thanks for posting

[Mike_Nomad]

Originally Posted by [TW]Swag

The spawn protection time and what you are seeking have been hidden from the level designers. We came to this decision based on the need conform all those values to something a player can understand 100% of the time in all the maps.

I am not certain if we plan to make those values available again.

If not then please...... increase the time allotted to getting into safety.

[[TW]Swag]

Originally Posted by Mike_Nomad

If not then please...... increase the time allotted to getting into safety.

Under what conditions are you finding that we are not allotting enough time to remove oneself from a spawn protection volume.

Not being a smart alack, just trying to gather data.

[LordGleedo]

Originally Posted by [TW]Swag

Under what conditions are you finding that we are not allotting enough time to remove oneself from a spawn protection volume.

Not being a smart alack, just trying to gather data.

I suspect Mike is referring to my map but I am currently improving how deep my attacking teams spawn protection goes into enemy territory. I have been way too severe, so I am currently pulling them back which should make the objectives harder to take as most of the enemy has not been killed by my swawn protection volumes lol.

[Mike_Nomad]

Originally Posted by [TW]Swag

Under what conditions are you finding that we are not allotting enough time to remove oneself from a spawn protection volume.

Not being a smart alack, just trying to gather data.

People get nailed in the first cap in Univermag when the Apartments are capped.. there's not enough time to get completely out of the cap area.

another 3-5 seconds would be sufficient to help.

In DieBreschi... too and Coldsteel... railyard cap zone and when the dangerous crossing is capped the same thing happens.

What I suspect is the time allotted is not taking into consideration the potential size of the Custom map's cap zones and map sizes. The mappers either need some flexibility with the time or more time should be allotted across the boards.

ps; you of all people, could never be considered a smart-aleck.... You are helpful.

[i8pptu]

Also it is not just the time, but more so how the mapper uses the spawn protection volume.

So to the just have more time isnt really the answer, the mapper has to be smart and think about where he/she is placing the volume.

[Mike_Nomad]

Originally Posted by i8pptu

Also it is not just the time, but more so how the mapper uses the spawn protection volume.

So to the just have more time isnt really the answer, the mapper has to be smart and think about where he/she is placing the volume.

Really? Why is it we run out of time and get trapped and killed? You are probably correct but when one considers how often we get killed because of this in the customs - it gets painfully obvious something ain't quite right.

A solution must be found - between the goofy red screens and auto-deaths, the Custom Maps are taking an unjust beating.

[LordGleedo]

If the map is designed properly, the spawn protection zones do not need to be so large that a player runs out of time escaping that zone.

A property to allow the designer to set a value would be nice, but would probably also make us lazy too

I am shortening my spawn protection zones all the time. For me, other than having a ****e design and layout of objectives, I do not actually play this game any where near enough to know or understand how best to play/use spawn protection zones. That is why my zones were HUGE which lead to me starting this thread.

However, if an enemy combatant has managed to stay very deep in enemy territory when the cap zone is taken/locked, then they will more than likely still get caught out and get killed by spawn protection regardless. That is the risk the player takes with remaining that deep inside the cap zone.

I can definately accept that TWI will probably not give us this property.