Warning shot to World of Warcraft players (a.k.a. How tough is YOUR drywall?)

[WickedPenguin]

I haven't seen this posted here before.

I guess you could call it a "warning shot" to World of Warcraft players, to get your butts away from the computer once in a while. Or at least get some kevlar-reinforced drywall....

http://antiotter.livejournal.com/144625.html

Idiots like that give responsible gun owners a bad name.

[Kasrkin Guard]

Saw that the other day.. My my, what a collection of guns.

[Lucius]

WoW!

[[-project.rattus-]]

Thats why we build with bricks. Nothing goes through two 30 inch layers of bricks (his outer wall, and my outer wall).

But honwstly, someone who takes care of his weapons like in this bathroom pic should not be able to own a gun. I don't care about his "right" to do so, as long as his "liberties" endanger my own life. So I don't understand anyone who still thinks that access to guns shouldn't be restricted to those who actually know what they are doing and are responsible.

[Wolfsglen]

I dont care how many guns the guy owns...he would get his 44 bullet returned...and inserted forcibly.

[Quietus]

That gun owner seems like an idiot. Although I don't own a gun I do know that you NEVER NEVER point a loaded gun in any direction you aren't positive is clear (or an intended target). That guy is SO lucky to be alive, I would have went over and beat the idiot to a pulp.

[SimFreak]

Originally Posted by Quietus

I would have went over and beat the idiot to a pulp.

First warning shot wasn't enough? You want another one?

[Quietus]

Originally Posted by SimFreak

First warning shot wasn't enough? You want another one?

44mag bullet 3 inches from dudes head=not funny at all. How about idiot gun owner not pointing loaded guns in neighbors direction? If you own a gun you have the responsibility to treat it as serious business at all times, which it seems like too many don't.

[SimFreak]

Originally Posted by Quietus

44mag bullet 3 inches from dudes head=not funny at all. How about idiot gun owner not pointing loaded guns in neighbors direction? If you own a gun you have the responsibility to treat it as serious business at all times, which it seems like too many don't.

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[FONT=&quot]You seem to be missing the point; starting **** with a guy who just ‘mistakenly’ discharged weapon while posing in front of a mirror is not a wise idea. [/FONT][/FONT]

[Xendance]

My stereotype of retarded american rednecks just keeps getting bigger

[Quietus]

Here's another tragic story involving guns (BB guns that is): When I was a kid my best friends friend (he was only an aquaintence of mine) apparently had a BB gun. It went off while he was looking at it apparently right in his eye, through the little hole in the eye socket and into his brain....he died.

For those who don't know:http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../frangible.htm

[[5.SS]Strother]

(though intimidation is a good thing ).

Actually some robbers might feel threatened by having a weapon pointed at them and some robbers when faced with the fight or flight response, fight. So you might actually be encouraging a bad situation to be worse with a more intimidating weapon. I think I'd choose to go with a knife/baseball bat/ or my bow. If someone sees my bow they will be like "LOLz what a noob like that scares me" and then I'll put a broadhead through their leg if it comes to that, or they will see it and be like "O NOES IT IS RAMBO" and they jump out the window.

[Lizardhands]

Originally Posted by [5.SS]Strother

Actually some robbers might feel threatened by having a weapon pointed at them and some robbers when faced with the fight or flight response, fight. So you might actually be encouraging a bad situation to be worse with a more intimidating weapon. I think I'd choose to go with a knife/baseball bat/ or my bow. If someone sees my bow they will be like "LOLz what a noob like that scares me" and then I'll put a broadhead through their leg if it comes to that, or they will see it and be like "O NOES IT IS RAMBO" and they jump out the window.

I didn't know you were an archer, Strother! What sort of bow do you use?


As for the "guns don't kill people" thing... The problem in America appears to be that people feel they need guns because other people (including criminals) have guns. It's a catch-22.

If you have a gun you are more likely to kill someone, but people want to feel safe. If only guns had never been invented... It's a social rather than legislational problem.


P.S. I wouldn't recommend taking a knife for self-defence unless you know how to use it properly. You're far more likely to get hurt.

[Explosioneer]

From what I understand, you're more likely to be injured or killed with the weapons in your own home than an intruder is. If you arent master of the situation or you cannot bring overwhelming and deadly force to your defense, you shouldnt even TRY to resist with a weapon. Its just going to make you deader faster.

And you are right, it is a social not a legislative problem for the US in regards to guns. Firearms are an integral part of our culture - we have a long history of private gun owners 'making' something with their trigger fingers (often at the expense of others, but thats another story). Look at our independence movement and the minutemen, think of the image of the 'Hunter providing for the family', think of the 'taming' of the wild west - all of these parts of our history involve the 'rugged American' and his guns. Now, while that sort of thing is largely behind us, we still have that legacy and we're not letting go of it for better or worse.

As a result, there are lots of guns now, there always will be lots of guns, and as long as there are guns, we're going to have stupid people who get them. Its something we're going to have to work through and figure out on our own, and just saying "Ban them all" is a response that just wont work here. If you're not from the US, you might be shaking your head and saying 'why dont they GET it?' Well, I'm sure some day we'll "get" it, but until then, I'm going to enjoy my guns to the fullest, and NOT shoot holes through my walls at the neighbor.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Explosioneer

From what I understand, you're more likely to be injured or killed with the weapons in your own home than an intruder is. If you arent master of the situation or you cannot bring overwhelming and deadly force to your defense, you shouldnt even TRY to resist with a weapon. Its just going to make you deader faster.

And you are right, it is a social not a legislative problem for the US in regards to guns. Firearms are an integral part of our culture - we have a long history of private gun owners 'making' something with their trigger fingers (often at the expense of others, but thats another story). Look at our independence movement and the minutemen, think of the image of the 'Hunter providing for the family', think of the 'taming' of the wild west - all of these parts of our history involve the 'rugged American' and his guns. Now, while that sort of thing is largely behind us, we still have that legacy and we're not letting go of it for better or worse.

As a result, there are lots of guns now, there always will be lots of guns, and as long as there are guns, we're going to have stupid people who get them. Its something we're going to have to work through and figure out on our own, and just saying "Ban them all" is a response that just wont work here. If you're not from the US, you might be shaking your head and saying 'why dont they GET it?' Well, I'm sure some day we'll "get" it, but until then, I'm going to enjoy my guns to the fullest, and NOT shoot holes through my walls at the neighbor.

Of course, you have that whole near total annihilation of an indigenous peoples and such thrown in the middle, which guns played a MASSIVE part in.


Sorry, but the little voice in my head can't let the good be listed without the bad

[{YBBS}Sage]

Originally Posted by Lizardhands

As for the "guns don't kill people" thing... The problem in America appears to be that people feel they need guns because other people (including criminals) have guns. It's a catch-22.

Not why I would rely on a gun for self defense. It doesn't matter if they have a gun themselves or not.

Reason 1: my wife. She's not physically as strong as I am, and I'm not exactly a body builder. Even against an unarmed intruder, she'd be basically helpless (if the intruder was even nearly as strong as I am.)

Reason 2: if the intruder has a knife. I'd rather not have him close to me before I can fight back. Even a baseball bat puts him close enough for a strike.

Reason 3: No matter how badass a fighter you are, there's someone who can kick your ***. I'd rather not find out that I'm not as good in a fight as I think I am, especially under those circumstances. Also, no matter how many years of karate, aikido, kung fu, krav maga, systeme or whatever martial arts you care to think of - hell you can master all of them - a gun is still your best method of defense (if available).

Also: The reason Americans have this "need" for guns is that our government has guns, not neccessarily the common street criminal. The Second Amendment (right to bear arms, feel free to look it up) was put in place to keep the government in check.

BooBoo: That's exactly how I feel about it, too. If someone's breaking into my house when I'm there, I have to assume the worst. In that kind of situation I've always believed your defense should be swift, sudden, and deadly.

[Bolt]

Guys, are those break-ins really happen THAT often? I mean, while i was reading your posts, i've got the impression that every day your neighbourhood has 1-3 breaks-ins..
I think the best way to protect your home is to not have 0.5 cm thick glass doors, that can be smashed even by a kid. This goes to walls as well: when you hit a wall with your leg and make a hole in there - something is wrong.

[[5.SS]Strother]

P.S. I wouldn't recommend taking a knife for self-defence unless you know how to use it properly. You're far more likely to get hurt.

I wish I could learn how to properly use a katana...you could really scare the crap out of an intruder just by holding that baby. If he has a gun I wouldn't suggest confronting him directly but maybe if I was good enough I'd jump out and slash at his gun or perhaps cut off one of his fingers.

No matter how badass a fighter you are, there's someone who can kick your ***.

chuck is pretty badass, and no one is better than him.

by the way my bow is a Parker, I have yet to get a deer with a bow, but I'm still young. After you go bow hunting, using a rifle is as easy as scratching your ***.

[Sichartshofen]

Sounds like someone was imitating the taxi driver.

[[CoFR]BooBoo]

I used to keep a loaded .45 auto on the shelf above my headboard. My brother kept his Beretta 9mm in his bedside table. Used to be we didn't have to keep loaded weapons handy, but the neighborhood we lived in went through a period where some local druggies were breaking into people's homes to steal anything not nailed down. Fortunately my wife and I live in a relatively safe area, even though we live in the Los Angeles metro area. I don't need my .45 to hand, which is very fortunate considering I had to sell it a while back (whoever ended up with my SIG better take good care of it).

I've said it before, and I'll say it until the day I die - my assumption is that anyone breaking into my home when I'm there is armed and intending to harm me and/or my family. My response to that threat will be immediate, violent, and as lethal as I can possibly make it. If that be with a baseball bat, a knife, or a firearm - whatever it takes to end the threat. Permanently.