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Old 07-09-2009, 04:08 AM
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my current mouse is failing, and I would like to see some recomendation for a good gaming mouse, my main requirements are:

-I dont want to need to install software in my computer to fully enjoy it

-confort and precision

-long battery life (if wireless)

-extra buttons that can be mapped for games

-not too expesive

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Old 07-09-2009, 05:04 AM
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I have a razer diamondback and I like it. It should be pretty cheap nowadays. It comes with a software that you need if you want to change the sensitivity on-the-fly (you hold a mouse button down and then scroll the wheel to increase/decrease it with a little on-screen display showing the current speed), set up macros or map special buttons to your mouse buttons and I think you also need the software to switch from lefthanded to righthanded. If you just plug it in without the software it works like a normal mouse. Ie, button 4 and 5 are the typical windows mouse buttons 4 and 5 so you can go back and forth with them in the explorer.

I used the on-the-fly sensivity for a week or so because it was a novelty but then I stopped bothering. Never used the macro function. I wouldn't know what to use it for. At the moment I am running the mouse with the default drivers that are automatically installed when you plug it in and it works like a charm.

It has 1600dpi which is more than enough and it's comfortable and very light (matter of taste. I like it).

If I were you I would go into a real store so you can try the mouse in action. And not just by laying your hand over the plastic cover either! Ask for an unpacked mouse and push it around for a while. Keep in mind though that you are used to your current mouse but that doesn't mean mouses that feel different are uncomfortable. So keep an open mind.
Gaming mouse or not, what really counts is if it is comfortable for you! Technical specs are only important if they are either extremely low so your efficiency would suffer or if they are extremely high so you have to pay for more than you'll ever be able to use.

As far as being comfortable goes, you should make sure it's easy to lift the mouse even with sweaty hands! If that isn't possible, gaming (where you might have to shuffle from time to time) is a nightmare. The razer diamondback is very good in that respect.

EDIT: Forgot to add: It has a wire.
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:12 AM
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Using a cheapo A4 gaming mouse(X-750F, first model) and I've been happy since(3 years). You may want to check them out before spending a benjamin on a overpriced mouse. I've never justified buying a "pro" device, and I've never felt I'm at disadvantage

This one seems to be their newest: http://www.amazon.co.uk/A4-X-748K-Ga.../dp/B001B2RTBY

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Old 07-09-2009, 08:00 AM
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thanks, I'm gonna take those into consideration

till now I'm using a cheap Microsoft one (dont know the model) is not very fancy, but one thing I love about it is that it has survived a lot of punishment, can't count how many times this thing had hit the floor (probably the reason its failing now =P) I hope whatever I buy is equally (or more =P) solid than this one

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Old 07-09-2009, 10:00 AM
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I indulged myself in a g9 quite a while ago now, and while it was expensive at the time, it might not be so bad now. And it has been a superb mouse, extremly comfortable and requires no software to use all its function including on the fly sensitivity and 2 thumb buttons. Not that I ever really use th sensitiivty tbh.

Hmm just checked amazon and they're still 50 quid acctualy, so maybe you won't be interested...

Still if you do decide to spend that kind of money I'm sure you wouldn't regret a g9.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:29 AM
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Still if you do decide to spend that kind of money I'm sure you wouldn't regret a g9.
That certainly depends whether you are a wrist or finger player.
Logitech mice always made me feel close to arthritis.
If you want to put your palm on the mouse, logitechs are ok, if you just want to steer the mouse with your fingers the Razers are quite a decent choice imo.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:22 AM
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Using a cheapo A4 gaming mouse(X-750F, first model) and I've been happy since(3 years). You may want to check them out before spending a benjamin on a overpriced mouse. I've never justified buying a "pro" device, and I've never felt I'm at disadvantage

This one seems to be their newest: http://www.amazon.co.uk/A4-X-748K-Ga.../dp/B001B2RTBY
Same here, and I really like this mouse
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:30 PM
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-I dont want to need to install software in my computer to fully enjoy it

-extra buttons that can be mapped for games

These two conditions are mutually exclusive. If you've got extra buttons, you're going to need software to program them.



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now I'm using a mx revolution. It's not really a gaming mouse but I like no cord. It's not like batteries were just invented, and I like that you can assign 13 functions to it however, no dpi on the fly and pricey I guess.
That's what I've got, too. I've never felt that I was outclassed when gaming with it. Batteries are great on it, and they're rechargeable anyway, so who cares? When the mouse thinks the batteries are critical, there's still plenty of life left to them to finish your gaming session. I've had my battery indicator red for 7 or 8 hours worth of constant use. (Never did die on me - I just put it back on the charger when I was done.)

Price isn't too bad anymore, either, especially if you don't mind refurbished. I bought mine refurbished, and 3 years later I still haven't had a single problem with it.

In fact, you can get it for $29.99, if you order before 0700 PDT, 12 July 2009 from this store.



More prices here



I love it. If this one dies anytime soon I'll buy another one.
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:19 AM
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These two conditions are mutually exclusive. If you've got extra buttons, you're going to need software to program them.
not really, windows has recognized all buttons without the software
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:18 AM
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A good choice would be the microsoft habu (has razer internals). It has an internal memory so once configured (5 profiles avail) you no longer need the software. Infact I dont think ive installed the software since my last reinstall.

The dpi is also adjustable via two buttons and doesnt rely on the software.

That being said the software does allow you to have different sensitivties in windows to that of games which i find good. I prefer a high sensitivty in desktop to increase productivity (lol!) but games i prefer it a smidge slower for better precision.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:44 AM
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That's what I've got, too. I've never felt that I was outclassed when gaming with it. Batteries are great on it, and they're rechargeable anyway, so who cares? When the mouse thinks the batteries are critical, there's still plenty of life left to them to finish your gaming session. I've had my battery indicator red for 7 or 8 hours worth of constant use. (Never did die on me - I just put it back on the charger when I was done.)

Price isn't too bad anymore, either, especially if you don't mind refurbished. I bought mine refurbished, and 3 years later I still haven't had a single problem with it.

In fact, you can get it for $29.99, if you order before 0700 PDT, 12 July 2009 from this store.



More prices here



I love it. If this one dies anytime soon I'll buy another one.[/QUOTE]


WOW, have they ever come down, I paid $99.99 in Canada.
I agree with all you've said, as well, I've never had a problem with it. Also, if you have big mits it fits in your hand nicely. Will probably buy another one.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:57 AM
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I am very happy with my Logitech G5 for reasons stated by others...
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:49 AM
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G5, diamondback, copperhead etc are all exellent mice, but they are expensive and will break if you sometime drop them on the floor.

MX518 has 2 thumb buttons, adjustable DPI and doesnt fall apart when you look at it. Its also cheaper than the alternatives.
Easy choise if you ask me.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:07 AM
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ive dug up an office 8k mouse, a bit like this..



...and the supplied office works software does not allow buttons 6+7 ( just in front of the wheel) and 8 just behind it to be programmed - and they cannot be detected in any game's control settings. They only offer a range of office functions i will never use.
Anyone aware of a work around, or mouse software that can be used to program these - esp. 6+7 which i'd like to try as lean buttons?
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:54 PM
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using a MX510 scince 2003, still working great
had a G5 for a short period of time, one of the worst mice i ever had (broke after just one month)

best choice would be a MX518 imo
yeah i'm gutted i smashed up my mx510 as i said - 518 looks good but im really looking for a way to move leaning from the keyboard to the mouse (without sacrificing other buttons) as i find myself playing finger twister quite often sometimes.
Hense i was enquiring about the buttons 6+7 on the a4 office mouse (which would be perfect) or the tilt wheels on logi+ms mice.

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I haven't found a way to bind the tilt function on my G5. Though I never really thought it about it...
so you didn't find an immediate way to bind the tilt, and it doesn't regester when setting keys in game options? I'd appreciate any info if you look into it further.

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Get a G9!! The fat grip for it is quite awesome and the comfort is outstanding. Also its very programmable if that what your after . .
looks cool but hang on , aren't they over £50?....

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Then get a matching G15!! . . .
....and these certainly are -
£100 on a mouse+key combo? No way you big nutter - you're a mentalist!
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:24 AM
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The G5 first edition that I have bee using for nearly three years now is set up for RO like this...

B1 :fire
B2 :alt fire
B3 :IS
B4: reload
Scroll up: next weapon
Scroll down: previous weapon
Tilt left: lean left
Tilt right: lean right
+ = prone
- = toggle crouch

G5 second addition (one button more) is a little more difficult to set up
but can be done.
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Old 08-14-2009, 02:51 AM
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The G5 first edition that I have bee using for nearly three years now is set up for RO like this...

B1 :fire
B2 :alt fire
B3 :IS
B4: reload
Scroll up: next weapon
Scroll down: previous weapon
Tilt left: lean left
Tilt right: lean right
+ = prone
- = toggle crouch

G5 second addition (one button more) is a little more difficult to set up
but can be done.

cheers - thats what i wanted to see. (not only that it was possible but that i wasn't crazy to suggest it)
I'm guessing i could also achieve this with any logitech tilt wheel mouse, as the setpoint drivers seem to fit many models, but at least i know if i fork out the cash for a g5, it's gonna do what i bought it to do.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:30 AM
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£100 on a mouse+key combo? No way you big nutter - you're a mentalist!
Got both for ~£70 . . . but worth it imo . . . (PC world had G15 cheap and ebuyer had G9 for decent price)

This is a case of you pay for what you get. And you get some very well made equipment!! Work 1 day overtime and get the good equipment . . . honestly its worh it.

Im not a fan of razor mice since mid clan match i hear blacklabel shout (in german accent ofc) "NIEN!! I amz spinzing round in circlez silly mouse f***** razor software" . . .
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ye i dearly hated that piece of ****...
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:05 AM
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NE1 aware of a problem where your mouse intermittantly disconnects for a few secs + reconnects (usually wth windows usb tones)?
Sometimes the fire button stops working - usually the whole mouse, you often have to reconnected the usb to fix.

Anyway, point is i smashed up my mx500 after this happened a few times - only to find that its probably windows or even a usb hardware fault (although it happens when mouse connected to MoBo, usb card or keyboard hub)

If/when i get this problem sorted i want to get a new mouse - I was thinking a modest mx518.
Is the g5 that much better? are wireless 100% reliable nowadays?
I play quite low sensitivity if that affects the choice
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